Are the regionals angling for a repeal of the ATP rule?

If they repeal the 1500 hour rule and another accident happens with a low time pilot occurs the general public and the FAA will just create a more rigid environment that will continue to lead to the demise of regional airlines. The 1500 hour rule is here to stay and the next few years in the 121 industry will be extremely interesting to follow and see how everything shakes out....good or bad!
 
On 3407, they both had well over 1500 hours.. 2200 I think was the FO's TT. If they want 1500 hours, I want 70k a year to START, otherwise I'll keep my day job, in another field, where I already make that.
 
Yea, that may be so.. It's a shame though. To think they actually wonder why people make poverty wages to fly a 45 million dollar jet, while being responsible for the lives of thousands every week. Joke's not on me guys.. At least I can afford to live with an actual roof over my head (And not mommy and daddy's). Wake up.
 
Yea, that may be so.. It's a shame though. To think they actually wonder why people make poverty wages to fly a 45 million dollar jet, while being responsible for the lives of thousands every week. Joke's not on me guys.. At least I can afford to live with an actual roof over my head (And not mommy and daddy's). Wake up.
"Gear up. Bitch."
 
Yea, that may be so.. It's a shame though. To think they actually wonder why people make poverty wages to fly a 45 million dollar jet, while being responsible for the lives of thousands every week. Joke's not on me guys.. At least I can afford to live with an actual roof over my head (And not mommy and daddy's). Wake up.
I've never lived with my mom and dad after i graduated high school. I've always had a roof over my head and has many on here will attest to, I've never had a problem affording to eat or drink. Maybe you need to wakeup.
 
I've never lived with my mom and dad after i graduated high school. I've always had a roof over my head and has many on here will attest to, I've never had a problem affording to eat or drink. Maybe you need to wakeup.

Same here, left the folks house at 18, 8 years ago. Doing pretty good so far and beats the HECK out of a desk. :-)
 
Yea, that may be so.. It's a shame though. To think they actually wonder why people make poverty wages to fly a 45 million dollar jet, while being responsible for the lives of thousands every week. Joke's not on me guys.. At least I can afford to live with an actual roof over my head (And not mommy and daddy's). Wake up.
Oh, how opposite of a life I live...
 
I made much less than that first year :( but it was just one year. I can't imagine people going through first year with 2 different regionals
I knew a guy that started day 364 with his third regional.

The stagnation that occurred between 2008-2011 or so is gone (hopefully). Had Age 65 AND the economic collapse not have happened half of us here would've been at mainline years ago. It was just bad timing.

I would think that moving forward, most people can expect a 2-3 year wait to upgrade and ~1 year at most in the left seat before going to whatever airline you wish. I would think most are going to be able to move on well before turning 30.

It would be funny if the majors concentrated on one company to hire from each month. Example, one month UAL hires 100 PSA CAs. Next month hires 100 Pinnacle guys. Etc. etc. That would kill the regional feed reliability.
 
I would think that moving forward, most people can expect a 2-3 year wait to upgrade and ~1 year at most in the left seat before going to whatever airline you wish. I would think most are going to be able to move on well before turning 30.

Hopefully that holds true to some of us at XJT who feel as if though we will never see an upgrade after more than 7 years at the company.
 
On 3407, they both had well over 1500 hours.. 2200 I think was the FO's TT. If they want 1500 hours, I want 70k a year to START, otherwise I'll keep my day job, in another field, where I already make that.

You are an entry level regional copilot. You are not worth $70K to start.
 
Nobody's defending $24,000 a year wages, but folks ARE saying it doesn't last forever.

Physicians make $45,000 a year during residency, but you've still got more applicants for medical school than there are slots. And these folks are coming out of medical school with $300,000 in debt.
Or $600,000. Depending.

(no, I'm not making that up.)
 
But they have a realistic expectation to make that up in the future, unlike the Riddle dork who spends $200K+.
The student in question currently works for the VA and wants to do freelance gynecology. I doubt she'll ever repay 100% of her student loans.
 
Obama will forgive her loans.
I think we should be forgiving a lot of peoples' student loans; I'm okay with writing off hers.

That's not the subject at hand though. Comparing airline pilots to lawyers and doctors is somewhat specious, unless you want to mandate a much higher standard of training, education, self-policing and certification for pilots. (None of which is necessarily a bad idea, and/but some of which would put a lot of people out of work.) We're worth more than we get the first year (or really five years), but the comparison lacks credibility.
 
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