Busta McRuffsta
The Ayatollah of Rock 'n' Rolla
Anyone with a recent interview know how much the airlines are still looking at failed checkrides and how many will disqualify you?
failed(but partial failure only) 2, 2 add-on, nothing important in my point of view.Just a few things the examiner wanted to check with me.
Specially when after I passed all the JAA first time.
but that was 13 years ago, how long the FAA keep track of it. How an airlne will check? they call the FAA?
I recently qualified at Eagle with 2 failures and know both Eagle and Colgan disqualify if more than 2 failures. However, I know a few CFI buddies who are recent new hires for Pinnacle and Republic that have 3 and even 4 failures on their records. The 4 time checkride failure guy just passed the EMB-190 checkride and starting IOE and I congratulate him just as much as I would anyone else. Failures should be reviewed as case by case scenarios. Especially, regarding Initial CFI checkrides, lapsed time, and several other mitigating circumstances. Last, with desperate need of pilots over the next 5 years, the airlines will not be able to staff their fleet unless they change the checkride failure rules. Domestic flight instruction is low and minimums are being dropped quickly to help subsidize. Their are far too many great aviators in this industry that are being passed over because of times of immaturity during training especially relative to college , poor examiners, and lapsed time that is now not allowing for them to be employeed especially for low pay. The fact of the matter is if the airlines Interviewing process, training, and passed 121 checkride is found proficent then the new hire should be privileged to fly for that desired airline reardless of 3 busted checkrides back in immature college years (just one example).
but that was 13 years ago, how long the FAA keep track of it. How an airlne will check? they call the FAA?
Have you ever heard of someone being fired for missing one question during the oral part of a check ride?
No.Hi everyone,
One instructor told me that checkride failures are on certificates...so If I fail twice the private and twice the commercial; then I have two failed checkrides. Is this correct ?
Thanks
I have that "black mark", maybe even exceed it actually. But bottom line is that I am currently flying the line at Horizon. All part 61 schoolsTwo failures for the same rating is a permanent black mark on your record, sorry.
BTW I heard conflicting statements about part 141 busts. So perhaps two 141 private busts count as one or even zero. But I doubt it would matter for the employment purposes.
There seem to be a lot of conflicting opinions on 141 stage check/check ride busts. probably a result of people confusing the two different events in the 141 world.Suppose a guy goes to a 141 school and fails some stage checks. Some stage checks were for certificates and some were not. It's been years and he really doesn't recall what failures were for what certificate not thinking it was all that important at the time to remember. What is required to be reported? I've heard that no 141 failures ever get reported to the FAA. What about 142 failures?