Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

tomokc said:
I'll give $100 to the first person who can prove to me that a fully-loaded modern airliner can float after ditching. Abstract theories don't count.

Let's move along.
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There are several? I'd say all that ditched safely floated.

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inigo88 said:
I'm also too lazy to do the math at the moment, but I would think that in a pressure vessel like a commercial airplane cabin, some water could enter via the outflow valve but it probably wouldn't compress the air THAT much. Otherwise, things like diving bells wouldn't work.
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I was looking at that and I think that air would leak past all the valves and compressors.. it would be reasonable to assume that the aircraft would not remain pressurised once in the water and I read that the seals on a B737 door only become effective with a 2psi difference and also they do pressure decay tests.. which again I read is that the pressure can only leak at a certain rate. The part of a plane under water would have inward pressure and an aircraft is designed to withstand outward pressure - it would sink eventually...
 
Pilot Fighter said:
I think the leaking is the problem, not collapsing under pressure ....unless the pressure is the result of a crash.
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OK ... I was thinking of leaking too - was not suggesting that it would collapse under pressure but that the pressure of the water on the hull outside as against the air pressure of the air inside would result in water leaking in and air leaking out from the unsubmerged part... just posted a picture of 1549 after two days tied to the dock...
 
Pilot Fighter said:
According to CNN, it needs 10k feet.
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Sea level, zero wind, no obstacles, no runway slope and standard day with 9,500' of runway will get you max structural for our engines on the -200ER. (10,200 for the LR) Don't know what weight with fuel load you would define as "empty" but I'm guessing you could probably get decent fuel amounts on board and be within W&B envelopes and only need about 6,000' of runway or so.
 
NiallG said:
OK ... I was thinking of leaking too - was not suggesting that it would collapse under pressure but that the pressure of the water on the hull outside as against the air pressure of the air inside would result in water leaking in and air leaking out from the unsubmerged part... just posted a picture of 1549 after two days tied to the dock...
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...resting on the river bed.
 
AUAeropilot said:
Sea level, zero wind, no obstacles, no runway slope and standard day with 9,500' of runway will get you max structural for our engines on the -200ER. (10,200 for the LR) Don't know what weight with fuel load you would define as "empty" but I'm guessing you could probably get decent fuel amounts on board and be within W&B envelopes and only need about 6,000' of runway or so.
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Thanks!
 
AUAeropilot said:
Sea level, zero wind, no obstacles, no runway slope and standard day with 9,500' of runway will get you max structural for our engines on the -200ER. (10,200 for the LR) Don't know what weight with fuel load you would define as "empty" but I'm guessing you could probably get decent fuel amounts on board and be within W&B envelopes and only need about 6,000' of runway or so.
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I was joking.....
 
Derg said:
Thanks!
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I'm not half as nerdy as my response sounded (at least that's what I kept telling myself as I was writing it). I just completed a study for network requesting similar information for all our fleets for 59 and 90 deg so the numbers were pretty fresh in my head.
 
AUAeropilot said:
I'm not half as nerdy as my response sounded (at least that's what I kept telling myself as I was writing it). I just completed a study for network requesting similar information for all our fleets for 59 and 90 deg so the numbers were pretty fresh in my head.
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Is that particular carrier going somewhere new and interesting? :)
 
brent p h said:
Paul Weeks who has disappeared with the Malaysia Flight is a Mechanical Engineer... he gave his wife a wedding ring & watch before boarding as if he knew something was wrong....
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brent p h said:
On searching Google, I found another Paul Weeks who is a Mechanical Engineer and guess what, works for Boeing....

He specifically works on guess what plane?? Yep, Boeing 777 like the one that disappeared.
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brent p h said:
His specific role:
Product Review Engineer II - 777 Wing & Final Body Join Integration at Boeing.
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brent p h said:
Another passenger on the plane was called Robert Lawton. I have found a Obituary for the death of a different Robert Lawton back in Feb 2013....One of his jobs, he worked as a joint mechanic on BOEING 777 planes....
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Okay, who made JC redirect to infowars.com? Please make it stop.
 
Derg said:
Is that particular carrier going somewhere new and interesting? :)
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Don't think so. I think network's just trying to better define their dartboard maps for their network hubs when they get the itch to fly somewhere. We've had some request for some eastbound departures from Europe but it was short lived when we told them not no but hell no.

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AUAeropilot said:
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Don't think so. I think network's just trying to better define their dartboard maps for their network hubs when they get the itch to fly somewhere. We've had some request for some eastbound departures from Europe but it was short lived when we told them not no but hell no.

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The Blue Schmoking Giants?

(I shall have a SHHHMOKE and eh pancake)
 
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