American Eagle told to play ball or become Comair-II

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bLizZuE said:
I think you have me confused with management. Also, you can't refute that we turned down an offer, and that offer has been replaced with a substantially less attractive offer. If we had leverage, wouldn't that offer have improved?
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I can't refute the fact that we turned down an offer. Likewise, you can't argue that the union leadership cadre which just "stepped down," and which you were a part of, was quite closely aligned with management. So closely, in fact, that some of our professional negotiators have evidently set out on their own, founding a company whose goals, apparently, are to help management squeeze labor in negotiations. http://www.collaborativelabor.com/ It would be funny if it wasn't true and if it wasn't my life and the lives of the crews I work with 4 days a week which they've screwed with.
 
General lee never lets an opportunity pass to tell sw pilots to enjoy their LBB overnight while he's on the way to Europe.
 
Firebird2XC said:
Since the last relatively benign comment was deleted, I called you out for a definitive lack of... Shall we just says 'guts', this time?

It rhymes with what I said you lacked. You can figure it out.
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I don't really understand your issue with me. Same team. We clearly disagree yet you're more concerned with winning internet arguments. I just want to have a job long enough to move onto something better.
 
BobDDuck said:
Honest question here.

And I'll preface it by saying, people can accuse me of not caring because I "escaped" all they want, but the truth is my mantra the entire 8+ years I was stuck at a regional was "leave it better than I found it".

So, with that said, why do people think they (as in "regional pilots") have any sort of leverage, even assuming everybody was to have held the line?
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No clue. When I was touring domiciles with the union immediately after bankruptcy, many people we're excited because of all our new leverage.
 
Kingairer said:
General lee never lets an opportunity pass to tell sw pilots to enjoy their LBB overnight while he's on the way to Europe.
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Ahh.

See, the two biggest questions I get are "Are you General Lee?" and "Will you stop messing around and admit you're Qutch?"

Which I think is hilarious, so why not add fuel to the fire? :)
 
roundout said:
I can't refute the fact that we turned down an offer. Likewise, you can't argue that the union leadership cadre which just "stepped down," and which you were a part of, was quite closely aligned with management. So closely, in fact, that some of our professional negotiators have evidently set out on their own, founding a company whose goals, apparently, are to help management squeeze labor in negotiations. http://www.collaborativelabor.com/ It would be funny if it wasn't true and if it wasn't my life and the lives of the crews I work with 4 days a week which they've screwed with.
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Again, you're mixing me up with someone else. I didn't make policies, I wasn't a voting member of our board, I wasn't the company that put is in bankruptcy. I was a guy who volunteered to send emails.

Also, try to stick to the point. We're talking about leverage.
 
bLizZuE said:
I don't really understand your issue with me. Same team. We clearly disagree yet you're more concerned with winning internet arguments. I just want to have a job long enough to move onto something better.
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I'd be happy to win it in person, too.

You're a spineless weasel and a defender of company aligned corrupt union officers. Pound sand.
 
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