H46Bubba
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Endeavor is owned by Delta which has no holding company.
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amorris311
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Ummmm, I don't know of that's right. They have to protect each of their investments and seperate business ventures. I'm willing to bet endeavor air is a subsidiary that is held by some arm of delta air lines inc.
Trip7
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Nope, it's a subsidiary of Delta Air Lines
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavor_Air
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amorris311
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Which is the holding company for all the subsidiaries. It's confusing but they have each thing seperate. I see what h46 is saying but it's the holding company for all of its subsidiaries.
I might be way off but it keeps the liability way down when you seperate things.
jtrain609
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Did you guys ever actually go through with the petition? Individual results don't exactly point to a trend in this area, as TSA/GoJet single carrier status was rejected with a bunch of great evidence showing that they should have been one carrier, and in my view, Polar/Atlas had MUCH less evidence to show that they should be a single carrier and the union won.
BobDDuck
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I don't think there was ever a petition started much beyond that "wouldn't it be funny" stage. Also, at that point, USAPA had pretty much blown us off as far as negotiating the flow through LOA (that was already in our CBA but listed under "TBD") and the war chest ALPA had always refused to provide for us to go after AAA ALPA was suddenly open to go after USAPA. That said, I don't think we had much of an argument for a single transportation system. I don't know if it's in the actual verbiage of the law or was in the commentary of a previously issued decision, but somewhere it says the entities have to be "similar and equal" which is about the most vague wording I've ever seen. We took that to mean that two 747 cargo operators (like Atlas and Polar) that both fly around the world are a good candidate for STS where as an RJ operator and an Airbus operator are not.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
When I was doing drumline stuff, we had a phrase, "Don't self cut." As in, don't remove (cut) yourself during the audition process, let somebody else do it for you. Stick around, finish the audition no matter what, hang it all out, and let the chips fall where they may.
You wouldn't believe the number of people that would spend months preparing for an audition, and then in the middle of the process, leave because they were convinced that they had no chance of making the ensemble. Many of these people would have been awarded spots if they had just stuck around long enough to finish the audition.
If it's up to me, I prefer to let regulatory agencies make these types of determinations. You risk nothing by losing because you're in the same position you were when you started, and stand to gain everything if you get an award in your favor.
You wouldn't believe the number of people that would spend months preparing for an audition, and then in the middle of the process, leave because they were convinced that they had no chance of making the ensemble. Many of these people would have been awarded spots if they had just stuck around long enough to finish the audition.
If it's up to me, I prefer to let regulatory agencies make these types of determinations. You risk nothing by losing because you're in the same position you were when you started, and stand to gain everything if you get an award in your favor.
This one time at bandcamp....
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Ask me about band camp and this guy named Hot Dog sometime. Pilots are pretty tame at the bar compared to the people I hung out with in drumline.
Did he play the flute?
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
I know for a fact that you play the trombone!
Was he a weenie?
jtrain609
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H46Bubba
Well-Known Member
Delta Air Lines Inc is the airline and holding company. There just isn't any separate entity like AAG or SkyWest, Inc which makes a defined distinction between the holding company and the airlines it has control of under it's umbrella.
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