118F - max RJ operating temerature

[MikeD]

I think that was because the pavement couldn't handle aircraft weights at that heat.

The big issue was that the 737s (and likely others) didn't have performance charts that went over something like 120F. So even at 122, which it was for one of the hottest days, you couldn't legally interpolate off the chart, even though you logically knew what the numbers would likely be.

 

[A150K]

Part 23 airplanes FTW!

Yep. While they were all waiting, I was out sweating my ass off in the right seat of a 172 doing crash and goes with my student.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

My airport was 10,000 the other afternoon. 2 ERJs and a 1900 had to wait it out in order to make the numbers work.

Only 10K?

 

[Inverted]

It's not that 118 F is the max temp period, it's that ISA+35C is the max operating temperature (a limitation for the CRJ). Up in DEN, this means it's closer to 103F or so. Nothing to do with op specs, it's purely a Bombardier CRJ limitation.

ISA+ mid 30's is probably where every turbine aircrafts operating limitation is, I think the max I have come across was 40.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

ISA+ mid 30's is probably where every turbine aircrafts operating limitation is, I think the max I have come across was 40.

Brasilia with EFIS is ISA+35C; with mechanical instruments it's ISA+38. Pretty sure the EMB 145 is the same way.

 

[A150K]

Only 10K?

Hey,it was enough to keep you 121 nancies grounded

 

[JayAre]

ISA + 37 for me and the 1900

 

[derg]

Hey,it was enough to keep you 121 nancies grounded

I've got your "nancy" right here, cupcake!

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Hey,it was enough to keep you 121 nancies grounded

The highest DA takeoff I made in a turbine powered airplane was at your home base. "Vee one, rotate." "OK, looking inside now!"

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I've got your "nancy" right here, cupcake!

For shizzle. There are no nancies flying the Bro.

 

[A150K]

The highest DA takeoff I made in a turbine powered airplane was at your home base. "Vee one, rotate." "OK, looking inside now!"

We definately meet the definition of a hot and high airport.

 

[ahw01]

Highest DA takeoff was either GCN or HND one July in a C-172, think 8000 ft or so. A chirp of stall warning on takeoff always keeps you alert.

Also felt the 'big hand' of ground effect doing a touch and go at Show Low in December - nose forward build up speed and all fine, but all good experience solo.

 

[bike21]

Nobody wants to ride on an RJ when it's that hot anyway. Especially the deuce.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Nobody wants to ride on an RJ when it's that hot anyway. Especially the deuce.

I'm pretty sure if it's anything over 90F, I'd rather ride on a Brasilia, or a -700.

 

[amorris311]

I'm pretty sure if it's anything over 90F, I'd rather ride on a Brasilia, or a -700.

The 170's cool down nicely as well. This is coming from someone who didn't have an apu in LGA sitting at the top of the pier trying to get a push to spot 23 from ground. That was borderline inhumane.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

The 170's cool down nicely as well. This is coming from someone who didn't have an apu in LGA sitting at the top of the pier trying to get a push to spot 23 from ground. That was borderline inhumane.

It was, after all, built in the jungle.

 

[amorris311]

It was, after all, built in the jungle.

True dat! I can't wait to find out if it hears worth a damn.

 

[derg]

It was, after all, built in the jungle.

So was Fordlandia. And we all know where that went!

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Speaking of. I understand fuel is expensive. But run the damn APU if it's hot. Grandpa passing out and having a heart attack in back is an even more expensive proposition than 'excessive' or 'unnecessary' use of the APU.

(Plus, if I'm not comfy, I guarantee the avionics aren't.)

 

[bike21]

I run APU 100% of the time in the summer. It's on during the descent & on for takeoff. In DEN we are supposed to turn them off to fuel the 200, so I'll run it until the fuel man shows up & crank it back up the second he is done. Nobody likes sweaty seats.