1500hr Rule Must Comply by 2019

How did you pass an ATP ride at AE when they didn't implement FOQ until August, and you left in June or July?
I understand that FOQ is a complete re-jiggering of AE's qualification (and that it is yielding some "interesting" results). I'm referring specifically to the contents of the ride. As I understand it, EM4 FOs did most of what Captains did under the old system with the exception of being checked on taxiing, no-flap landings, and a single-engine missed approach. Aside from those tasks not evaluated, the whole PC is flown to ATP standards anyway.

(This is how I understood it, that is.)

Where I am now, no retrains are permitted for the ATP; regular lowly FOs can retrain an event. Soon it won't matter anyway because everyone who works here will either have their ATP or be issued it on the conclusion of initial.
 
I understand that FOQ is a complete re-jiggering of AE's qualification (and that it is yielding some "interesting" results). I'm referring specifically to the contents of the ride. As I understand it, EM4 FOs did most of what Captains did under the old system with the exception of being checked on taxiing, no-flap landings, and a single-engine missed approach. Aside from those tasks not evaluated, the whole PC is flown to ATP standards anyway.

(This is how I understood it, that is.)

Where I am now, no retrains are permitted for the ATP; regular lowly FOs can retrain an event. Soon it won't matter anyway because everyone who works here will either have their ATP or be issued it on the conclusion of initial.

Retrain is standard for PCs, but as you said, not allowed for a practical test, ATP or otherwise.

Are full types for FOs at these airlines done in the left or right seat?
 
So wait, now sitting on piles of cash and making more piles of cash is a BAD business strategy? I confess that I don't have an MBA, but I thought that was a GOOD thing.

Generally, it's considered smart in this business to have about 20% of yearly revenue in cash. Sitting on considerably more than that is considered wasteful and lazy. That money should be reinvested into the business, or shareholders would argue paid to them in dividends. One or the other. Just sitting on excess cash for an eternity is a useless business strategy.
 
:confused: this whole 1500 hr thing is so confusing...
Agreed. If they are doing credits I just wish that 61 would get some too not just because the majority of my training was done 61, but as a 61 instructor this would kill my student load...and we do take the same tests. Spend 6 months at my old 141 school and tell me that it isn't an abomination.
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...8079391643223634.html?mod=WSJ__LEFTTopStories

Wall Street Journal headline: "Airlines Face Acute Shortage Of Pilots"

Paragraphs one through four...

U.S. airlines are facing what threatens to be their most serious pilot shortage since the 1960s, with higher experience requirements for new hires about to take hold just as the industry braces for a wave of retirements.

Federal mandates taking effect next summer will require all newly hired pilots to have at least 1,500 hours of prior flight experience—six times the current minimum—raising the cost and time to train new fliers in an era when pay cuts and more-demanding schedules already have made the profession less attractive. Meanwhile, thousands of senior pilots at major airlines soon will start hitting the mandatory retirement age of 65.

A rule requiring new airline pilots to have at least 1,500 flying hours will postpone the day flight instructor John Adkins, above, can join a carrier.
Another federal safety rule, to take effect in early 2014, also will squeeze the supply, by giving pilots more daily rest time. This change is expected to force passenger airlines to increase their pilot ranks by at least 5%. Adding to the problem is a small but steady stream of U.S. pilots moving to overseas carriers, many of which already face an acute shortage of aviators and pay handsomely to land well-trained U.S. captains.

"This is going to come to a crisis," said Bob Reding, recently retired executive vice president of operations at AMR Corp.'s AAMRQ -2.70%American Airlines and now a consultant to FlightSafety International Inc., an aviation training
 
Regionals don't set the rates for their flying, they're paid a specified amount for every departure they do for their mainline carrier.

What WILL happen is that the mainline carriers won't pay the additional rates necessary to keep regionals afloat, the regionals will go bankrupt, and then mainline will take the flying back in house.

Exactly.
 
Oh wow, a JC'er saying there is going to be a pilot shortage? That's unusual.

(waiting for typical JC bandwagon reply..."been hearing of one coming for decades but it never happens and will never happen.")

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Short pilots, but never a pilot shortage. There, obligation fulfilled.
 
I'm impressed. At the ripe age of 5, that kid is not only a captain, but is also a Marine with a parachutist badge. This kid makes us all look like hacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parachutist_Badge_(United_States)#Navy_.26_Marine_Corps
I think Tim Martin has at least all of that.
When in doubt I choose to predict the future based on the past. I can think of one time only pilots were pulled off the street to fly for airlines in the past 50 years. Not great odds for the looming pilot shortage.
 
Oh wow, a JC'er saying there is going to be a pilot shortage? That's unusual.

(waiting for typical JC bandwagon reply..."been hearing of one coming for decades but it never happens and will never happen.")

The only time you hear "pilot shortage" from me is when the Majors can't fill new hire classes. This is what actually happened in the 1960s. I just don't see that happening again anytime in the foreseeable future.

What I think IS coming is that there will be a shortage in the bottom feeder regionals (mesa, colgan, gulfstream, great lakes, ect). It won't matter how much Mesa underbids Skywest if Mesa can't staff it's flights.
 
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