Decision to make......
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Homewrecker
NJA_Capt said it all. Few jobs are worth missing out on your kids growing up.
Maybe. If the job was the gateway to significantly bigger and better things then I would consider it. If it's a 1 year contract with no chance of anything better then I would pass. No amount of money is worth missing your kids grow up, you only get one chance to raise them right.
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Maybe. If the job was the gateway to significantly bigger and better things then I would consider it. If it's a 1 year contract with no chance of anything better then I would pass. No amount of money is worth missing your kids grow up, you only get one chance to raise them right.
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kiloalpha
Well-Known Member
Oh, and they're non-consecutive. One at a time.
Exactly like my position now. 6 on, 1 off. Oh well. Depending on the company, I would go for it. Is it a career job? Yearly pay increases? Retention bonus? Good benefits? If not, then skip it over, I'm sure something better will come along soon.
WacoFan
Bigly
For a job that every two weeks someone writes a post wondering if you're a professional or a glorified truck driver? For a job that (according to MsHunters post) the main benefit is that the MS can stay in their home as opposed to moving? All so that you can miss the first year of your childs life?
Nah...I'll pass on that. If it were a SPECTACULAR opportunity then I'd think about it (defined as money). It sounds like at the end of the year you'll either be in the same place as now (looking), or you'll be in a position to re-up for a year (and be away again).
Doesn't sound like a good value proposition to me.
You know, I have a friend. He is an auto-mechanic as well. He took his skills and opened a VW/Audi shop. He currently has around $500k worth of Waco's (one of them an Oshkosh Grand Champion) as well as a Debonair and he may still have his Cub. Prior to that he had a Stinson 108, the prettiest Stinson SR-8E Reliant you ever saw, then a gorgeous C-195 (prettiest one I've ever seen), and a C-180. On top of that he has a collection of hot rods. He does pretty well and leads an awesome life. Also, I don't think he ever asks himself if he is professional. Nor does he care. Just food for thought. There isn't a pro-pilot here (with the exception of Bumblebee or T-cart) that I would even consider there lives if given a choice between my buddies deal and their pro-flying gig and lifestyles.
Nah...I'll pass on that. If it were a SPECTACULAR opportunity then I'd think about it (defined as money). It sounds like at the end of the year you'll either be in the same place as now (looking), or you'll be in a position to re-up for a year (and be away again).
Doesn't sound like a good value proposition to me.
You know, I have a friend. He is an auto-mechanic as well. He took his skills and opened a VW/Audi shop. He currently has around $500k worth of Waco's (one of them an Oshkosh Grand Champion) as well as a Debonair and he may still have his Cub. Prior to that he had a Stinson 108, the prettiest Stinson SR-8E Reliant you ever saw, then a gorgeous C-195 (prettiest one I've ever seen), and a C-180. On top of that he has a collection of hot rods. He does pretty well and leads an awesome life. Also, I don't think he ever asks himself if he is professional. Nor does he care. Just food for thought. There isn't a pro-pilot here (with the exception of Bumblebee or T-cart) that I would even consider there lives if given a choice between my buddies deal and their pro-flying gig and lifestyles.
BeRich
Very Special Agent
Oh hot damn, it's an O&M post that I agree with!
It's not worth missing your kids growing up for a mediocre job with no potential to really get better. Try to find a flying job where you are, or if you have to, find a non flying job where you are, but leaving your family for a year is probably not the best thing for either you or them.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
I know, what is the world coming to?
Something better will come up...as stated, it's not worth missing the formative years.
I think that about makes your decision. No way would I leave my wife, child, and newborn. My two are 13 and 10 yrs old and it isn't always so cool hang with Dad any more. I long for those times when they were so young. That is time you cannot get back.
Beech driver
Well-Known Member
Here's my 2 cents, coming from a single guy with no wife, family or girlfriend keeping me from taking the job.
Don't take the job. From what I have seen through family and friends, the best time to be around your own is when they are young. Perhaps in the long run it would be in your best interest to take the job. But at what cost? Right now your job is to be with the family as much as possible. Not just for them, but yourself as well.
Don't take the job. From what I have seen through family and friends, the best time to be around your own is when they are young. Perhaps in the long run it would be in your best interest to take the job. But at what cost? Right now your job is to be with the family as much as possible. Not just for them, but yourself as well.
OldTownPilot
Well-Known Member
What about Eagle? They have a LAX base, and they seem to be hiring a lot, it might take a bit to get into LAX, but at the rate that they are hiring it can't be too long.
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
I seem to remember asking Firebird about that at one point, and it's not something you can hold right away (~3 years comes to mind for reserve FO and a ways more for a lineholding FO).
I suspect that if you allowed yourself to take a larger view of aviation (i.e. as a business and not just a means to fly airplanes) you might find we agree more often.
BeRich
Very Special Agent
I suspect that if you allowed yourself to take a larger view of aviation (i.e. as a business and not just a means to fly airplanes) you might find we agree more often.
Maybe, maybe not. I've found that most of your posts are what would be good for the aviation industry meaning the businesses that are a part of it. However, this is a pilot forum, and as pilots, we're trying to do what would be best for the pilot group, which is obviously a large and important part of the industry. IMHO, that's probably what brings these disagreements. From a management/best for the industry perspective, I'm sure everyone would agree that it woud be best to pay the pilots as little as possible while maximizing the work that each pilot can do. Obviously that's what would be best for the businesses (at least until they want the pilot to go above and beyond to help the company out, as that doesn't happen so much with a toxic relationship between the two sides).
Of course, you're completely entitled to you opinion, and of course, we can disagree with it as much as we want. Free speech is fun! :beer:
Jobs will come and go. You're family is more important. If you can make it without the job I would not even consider taking it. A year away from your family is simply not acceptable. You'll NEVER get that year back. You'll never get to see your child take it's first steps or hear it speak it's first words. You can't get it back. You can't get it back. You'll make more money over the years but not time. Stay at home...you'll find a way. I'm 48 and was blessed to be there with a good job that allowed me to coach baseball and football and all that stuff. Spending time with your child is way more important and your wife needs you home. You have no promise of tomorrow and neither does your family. There could be no family to come back to.
It's taken a long time, but I have learned that what is good for my employer may or may not be good for me, but what is bad for my employer is ultimately going to be bad for me too.
I did an Eagle interview. No thanks. I'm not an airline pilot. I ended up having to drive home from the interview. It's a long story not to be told on the internetz. I don't want to publicly bash Eagle.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Well, if you want to continue flying and not leave your wife and family for a year, you might just have to be. Have you flown for the airlines before?
