Thanks to the gentlemen that displayed constructive responses to my question and for refraining at taking shots at me...to the guys with snide remarks...no comment, i just may get banned permanently for my remarks. It is obvious these guys didn't understand the question and were too quick to shoot off in an attempt to be amusing. FYI this is not a question im asking for myself...looked up an old friend on faa.gov airmen certificate...he is type rated in the previously mentioned aircraft, has all his certs with the exception of an instrument rating, did not see it anywhere on the query page.