ASA to offer 24 positions to XJT Furloughs

Oh and if you're planning on being a successful bigtime lawyer I wouldn't count on too many days or time off with those 80-90hr work weeks. Makes a reserve regional job look like a vacation

Big law? You must have mistaken me for a sell out.
 
Big law? You must have mistaken me for a sell out.

I'm sure you've done your research, but even if you're not a "sell out" the legal profession is not known for it's kind schedules.

My sister graduated in the top 10% of her class from Harvard law (sorry, I get to brag about her awesomeness) and from the start had planned on going to a non-profit employment/immigration firm. She's able to do a tremendous amount of good through her job, and she wouldn't be happy doing anything else, but in terms of hours worked and pay she's not doing any better than most regional FO's.
 
LOL, yeah, we all picked the right place by spending 2 years on furlough (and counting).

And to the above poster about XJT longevity during furlough: No, longevity is not accrued during furlough, but everyone on furlough (minus a few November 2007 hires) had been off probation and on second year pay.

You sneaky bastards!!!
 
Pleeze, most of your opinions are in the minority. XJT one list support being a great example. 'But but but the MEC's decision doesn't represent the pilot group's feelings!' Get outta here haha

Uh...what?

Pleeze? Come on man. Pretty sure you went to school, have a degree, and are - fairly - educated. Act it. Sure, you might have to take off the big baller status for a little bit, but it's for the best.

Not all of us are descendents of royalty, we're trying to make a modest living without getting raped by our employer. You don't know anything about that though - Mr. rainbows, gum drops, and fairy tales. Enjoy your utopian dream.

One list support? You're imagining things again. Don't mistake that with supporting the XJT's MEC in representing their whole pilot group - something our MEC has been lacking for a while now. You know much about that?
 
So is the payout when you move to mainline.

You're shooting your chances of going to mainline in the foot by wanting bigger/better/more aircraft at your current airline. You may not think scope will be recovered, but at least pretend like you want it to be...
 
Pleeze, most of your opinions are in the minority. XJT one list support being a great example. 'But but but the MEC's decision doesn't represent the pilot group's feelings!' Get outta here haha

No, most people do agree with surreal much more than they do with you. The majority of people I work with are tired of getting jerked around by an incompetent middle management. They claim they want us to be "the go to airline" but they've been trying to get by with so little for so long, people are getting tired of being pushed around.

Take a look at the comments left by most on the company website. There is one person who has the same outlook about the company as you (BH is the second coming of Jeebus). He's done a whole lot but everyone in-between us and him have been screwing the pooch.

When is the last time you've seen a single day that isn't below min reserve staffing. When have we had a vacancy bid that wasn't retracted and redone because they screwed it up? They did an awesome job getting the IAD base up and running smoothly but now we have a ton of MELs and nobody to work the front desk in the lounge. I've heard they offered B.S.'s job to a few people but they all turned it down because the pay was so bad. The lounge is a mess with boxes all over the place. I have to go hunting for my own jepp revisions as they are sitting in some plain looking box in the corner without a label or anything.

They aren't giving us the tools and the manpower to get things done. They're expecting us to be inspired by feel good emails and aceypalooza while they extend us and place the extra burden on the reserves (who have been on reserve for 3+ years) to get things done.

That's great that it's all about the benjamins and being able to fly a jet around for you. But my view on things is that my job should not be the center of my life. Work to live, not live to work. It's been pointed out by many here that if your job is your main source of satisfaction, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. That's exactly why most of us are upset. Because there has Been such a drive to be "cost competitive" this job is interfering with the things in this life that ARE important to the rest of us.

I'm down with temporary sacrifice to help out the company during inforseen circumstances...but when they're doing it on purpose, that pisses me off.
 
Offering 200% premimum pay to pick up overnights tonight.

Might have jumped on that if these asshats didn't junior assign me for tomorrow - one damn roundtrip to Augusta. Screw em'

Was half tempted to negotite to have them pull the AGS off tomorrow if I do anything beyond my original footprint tonight.


Anyway...this is the greatest job in the world, nothing negative EVER occurs. Utopia eerywhere.
 
I'm sure they will have something for you tomorrow after the roundtrip. Scheduling is not doing their job unless they extend you into your GDO. (Yes, that happened to me a few times in the last year)

Then, when they rearrange your schedule before the 1st of the month they will give you multiple single days off.. That will give them the opportunity to give you the 6 day trip... (And yes they can do that in spite of the new agreement) I have done quite a few 6 day trips in the last year.


I wouldn't pick up a trip for 500% pay.. I am so sick of bending over to help the company that flying on my little time off is not worth it... Plus, they would extend me anyway on this fictional trip and find some loop hole in our contract that says they can do that on any day that ends with a "Y". DB will find some way of stiffing me out of my 500% pickup and then dock me a minimums day pay for questioning his scheduling practices...


I love ASA.
 
Yup. I said screw it. Had the realization that it's pointless. It wouldn't be right for me to rail against guys picking up OT when we were furloughed, then since we're all back...to go ahead and suck up the 200% premium pay.

Same reason I went with the PPO instead of the HSA...it costs the company more.

Good riddance.

I'm walking in tomorrow at about 3pm to see KS. Turn in my military leave paperwork, let him know that I won't be able to report for my four day that starts on the 15th because my leave starts on the 16th, and that I'll see the company in the spring. Doubt they'll have this staffing figured out by then.
 
I hear you.. I can guarantee staffing will be the same by spring.

I would stay out on military leave until they fix this problem.
 
I hear you.. I can guarantee staffing will be the same by spring.

I would stay out on military leave until they fix this problem.


Ha, that's comical. A regional airline 'fix' staffing?!?! I don't work for AS...err Atlantic Southeast Airlines.....but I'm in regional hell as well. Same plague, different paint. Regional staffing is a joke. Any cancelled flights, due to staffing issues, falls squarely in one place: management! Don't fall for the 'premium pay'....it's a scam to enable pathetic staffing models.
 
Yup. I said screw it. Had the realization that it's pointless. It wouldn't be right for me to rail against guys picking up OT when we were furloughed, then since we're all back...to go ahead and suck up the 200% premium pay.

Same reason I went with the PPO instead of the HSA...it costs the company more.

Good riddance.

I'm walking in tomorrow at about 3pm to see KS. Turn in my military leave paperwork, let him know that I won't be able to report for my four day that starts on the 15th because my leave starts on the 16th, and that I'll see the company in the spring. Doubt they'll have this staffing figured out by then.

There is nothing hypocritical about picking up that 200% pay. Like you said, eveyone is back on property. Now, if you had other reasons, like wanting to enjoy your day off, then fine. You'd have nothing to feel bad for.
 
Uh...what?

Pleeze? Come on man. Pretty sure you went to school, have a degree, and are - fairly - educated. Act it. Sure, you might have to take off the big baller status for a little bit, but it's for the best.

Not all of us are descendents of royalty, we're trying to make a modest living without getting raped by our employer. You don't know anything about that though - Mr. rainbows, gum drops, and fairy tales. Enjoy your utopian dream.

One list support? You're imagining things again. Don't mistake that with supporting the XJT's MEC in representing their whole pilot group - something our MEC has been lacking for a while now. You know much about that?

Trip 7 is royalty?
 
Oh and if you're planning on being a successful bigtime lawyer I wouldn't count on too many days or time off with those 80-90hr work weeks. Makes a reserve regional job look like a vacation
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Yeah, but the payoff at the end when you make partner is a whole lot better than what you'd get hanging around a subcontractor airline.
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So is the payout when you move to mainline.
you're off by about 75%
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You're shooting your chances of going to mainline in the foot by wanting bigger/better/more aircraft at your current airline. You may not think scope will be recovered, but at least pretend like you want it to be...
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JTrain = "The Daily Show's" Wyatt Cenac. Thiiiiiiiink about it!
 
I suppose the real question is...

Do you want to be the big spoon, or the little spoon?
 
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