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No kidding, I wonder whats gonna happen with the metro program now.

I quit, and i'd never tell anyone to go there... It's just not worth it. They'll tell you how valuable that PIC time is all day though... I have a feeling the Metro program will likely end up in BUR now. And will really go down the tube too. (no pun intended).
 
I quit, and i'd never tell anyone to go there... It's just not worth it. They'll tell you how valuable that PIC time is all day though... I have a feeling the Metro program will likely end up in BUR now. And will really go down the tube too. (no pun intended).

Its a shame that it turned out to be that way.... I would still jump at the chance to work for AMF as long as I could pull BQN as my base... beyond getting that I think I will stay where I am or possibly head over to India.
 
Its a shame that it turned out to be that way.... I would still jump at the chance to work for AMF as long as I could pull BQN as my base... beyond getting that I think I will stay where I am or possibly head over to India.

I dont know much about the bases down there other than that typically they like to hire locals... The only thing is, I believe the bases down there are all turbine, so you have to have some decent PIC time to get hired to there...
 
I dont know much about the bases down there other than that typically they like to hire locals... The only thing is, I believe the bases down there are all turbine, so you have to have some decent PIC time to get hired to there...

You know everyone keeps telling me that they only hire locals... and although I am a local in many respects my first job down there was earned even though I was not a local. I think what most people are trying to say is that Puerto Rican pilots don't like outsiders when there are qualified Puerto Rico residents available... also another point to consider... unless you have flown to some of the airports serviced by AMF it can be a pain in the ass to bring someone new in and get them trained.
The SJU and BQN are all turbine... and yes I have some decent PIC... now all I need is a job to open up and my friends to recommend me I suppose.
 
You know everyone keeps telling me that they only hire locals... and although I am a local in many respects my first job down there was earned even though I was not a local. I think what most people are trying to say is that Puerto Rican pilots don't like outsiders when there are qualified Puerto Rico residents available... also another point to consider... unless you have flown to some of the airports serviced by AMF it can be a pain in the ass to bring someone new in and get them trained.
The SJU and BQN are all turbine... and yes I have some decent PIC... now all I need is a job to open up and my friends to recommend me I suppose.

Naw I believe it's more kids from the 48 don't adjust well to it down there and quit. Training costs in the airplanes down there is a bunch.
 
You know everyone keeps telling me that they only hire locals... and although I am a local in many respects my first job down there was earned even though I was not a local. I think what most people are trying to say is that Puerto Rican pilots don't like outsiders when there are qualified Puerto Rico residents available... also another point to consider... unless you have flown to some of the airports serviced by AMF it can be a pain in the ass to bring someone new in and get them trained.
The SJU and BQN are all turbine... and yes I have some decent PIC... now all I need is a job to open up and my friends to recommend me I suppose.

What mikecweb said is definitely true... But if you have flown down there a bunch and are familiar with airports and such I think you could probably get a job just fine.
 
I've seen some posts out there how the company is not as good as it once was but could someone elaborate what its like working there?

CVG aside, AMF is not really a bad place to work, assuming you know what you are getting into and use AMF to further your own career goals (that's what they're expecting, which is why pilots are valued lower than "long-term" staff).

What you need to know:

1) Be prepared to "feel" like you work 24/7. Most runs are 6 days per week. If you fly UPS, you'll be on the ramp as early as 4:15AM in some places. You'll get in very late at night, just to turn around and do it again the next day. You'll spend all day in the outstation hotel. If you fly bank work, it may only be 5 days per week, but they're VERY long days. If you have kids or a wife, you'll only see them 1 day a week. If you're single, pretty much forget dating for the duration.

2) The best way to make it easy for yourself is to stay off the radar scope. How do you do this?
a)Be reliable - don't call in sick excessively, make all your check-in calls on time, etc.
b)Don't bend the airplane
c)Don't piss off the customer
d)Don't break the airplane in the outstation
e)Stay out of trouble with the FAA
f)Be prepared and pass all of your checkrides
f)Don't work in BUR

3) If you want to get to Turbine equipment as soon as possible, be willing to go anywhere, at any time, on a moment's notice. The minute you see an outstation turbine run come up, you bid on that run. You let the VP of Flight know that you're going to take every possible upgrade. You get into the 99 for six months to a year, and then bid on the first Metro or 1900 run that come up. Right or wrong, sometimes they'll bypass the seniority system and award you a run because you've shown a willingness to do whatever it takes. They're also more likely to give an outstation to a pilot that has demonstrated extreme reliability.

4) Outstations are great, especially for a single guy. The company will provide a hotel or apartment at night, and you can hang out at the airport/library/coffee shop/gym during the day = NO HOUSING EXPENSES. The quickest way to upgrade is to take an outstation that no one wants. This is a little more difficult in today's environment because more Chieftain guys are taking this approach, but it's still happening. Bottom line - if you're only willing to fly out of PDX/BFI/BUR/(Name your base), you'll never move up because of seniority issues in those bases.

5) Commuting - it can be done, but your life will be a miserable hell. For example, if you try to commute to an outstation, it's generally not in a place that Southwest will fly. So, you'll have to keep a car in the major city and then drive three hours to the outstation. In the winter, this can be difficult. That's why UPS uses a feeder to get to that outstation instead of a truck. They can't reliably get the freight there every day on time. You have to allow lots of time and options to get there, which means you are going to spend ALL day Monday getting there and most of the day Saturday going home. If you end up having to call in sick because you couldn't get on the jumpseat, you're going to get canned because they can probably view into CASS and see what you're up to (not positive on this).

The upside - you're going to fly 600-900 hours per year in turbine equipment in all kinds of weather and you will become a much better pilot. You'll have the time and experience to move on to a corporate or airline job.
 
^ Pretty solid write up. Each base has there personalities. Depends on what your like and what you will deal with. Some have more turbine possibilities then others. You can date, just might be wherever you layover at. The pay is enough to get by, unless you end up in the Bay. To get the job, have you times and follow up.
 
Yes that was an excellent write up. One more thing I would like to throw in here, and this can be said with most airlines as well, but I think it needs to be made clear, is DO NOT come to Ameriflight for a base. There have been a lot of cases of people getting hired to (insert base) and after training being informed they are now based in (insert base). I also see a lot of people on here ask about Ameriflight in Seattle (BFI). FYI, as of right now it could take 5 years to get Seattle. Nobody has been hired to, or transferred there in several years, and there seems to be no hint of anything in the future...
 
Yes that was an excellent write up. One more thing I would like to throw in here, and this can be said with most airlines as well, but I think it needs to be made clear, is DO NOT come to Ameriflight for a base. There have been a lot of cases of people getting hired to (insert base) and after training being informed they are now based in (insert base). I also see a lot of people on here ask about Ameriflight in Seattle (BFI). FYI, as of right now it could take 5 years to get Seattle. Nobody has been hired to, or transferred there in several years, and there seems to be no hint of anything in the future...


Exception... Oakland.
 
Exception... Oakland.

Haha true, you want Oakland, it's yours... right now. And you can probably keep it for a long time and even upgrade without a terribly long wait, but if you aren't from Oakland, keep in mind cost of living. To find anything affordable, you'll live so far away that you gas cost will probably end up being the same.
 
Thanks to everyone responding, especially the write up by tbmpilot. I am single and willing to go anywhere. I'm doing a follow up call on Monday, so we'll see what happens. I've read a few gouges/threads and someone said that they called to do a follow up and ended up having their phone interview right there. What would you recommend to have with me or on me during the phone interview portion. What is the phone interview like? I will be talking with S Perez, but can't find out if this is a Mr./Ms./Mrs. Any idea?? I don't want to sound like an idiot asking to speak with this person. Again, thanks to everyone's responses.
 
Thanks to everyone responding, especially the write up by tbmpilot. I am single and willing to go anywhere. I'm doing a follow up call on Monday, so we'll see what happens. I've read a few gouges/threads and someone said that they called to do a follow up and ended up having their phone interview right there. What would you recommend to have with me or on me during the phone interview portion. What is the phone interview like? I will be talking with S Perez, but can't find out if this is a Mr./Ms./Mrs. Any idea?? I don't want to sound like an idiot asking to speak with this person. Again, thanks to everyone's responses.

Well you might want to do some more research before you call because Sylvia Perez doesn't work there anymore. Just a hiring dept which I believe is basically the flight dept. Good luck!
 
Well you might want to do some more research before you call because Sylvia Perez doesn't work there anymore. Just a hiring dept which I believe is basically the flight dept. Good luck!

Thanks for the heads up. I'm glad to not have to make that mistake, thanks to you. I'm just wondering, since the ad that was posted had her name on the ad as the contact person, did this just happen recently? Thanks again.

Mike
 
Thanks for the heads up. I'm glad to not have to make that mistake, thanks to you. I'm just wondering, since the ad that was posted had her name on the ad as the contact person, did this just happen recently? Thanks again.

Mike

It happened sometime between March and July of this year. Just give them a call.. 800-800-4JET and ask for someone in pilot hiring.
 
With the job market the way it is right now, is it realistic to get a call with 1200TT? Just curious.
 
With the job market the way it is right now, is it realistic to get a call with 1200TT? Just curious.

On one hand I agree, chances are probably low. But take a few things into consideration

1. The company knows that a higher time pilot will leave this company as soon as they can when the airlines start hiring again. A low time pilot might be more desired because they may be able to "squeeze" some more flight time out of you.

2. I'm only at the 1200TT mark but whats the worst that can happen, they say no? Honestly I'm not holding my breath, although I would really like to move on from CFI'ing and I hope this will work out for me.

Ultimately, I would really hate myself if I didn't apply because there are so many other pilots out there that are more qualified than me, only to find out that they did take pilots with comparable times to mine. You'll never know if you don't try.
 
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