Re: Pilot dies as single-engine plane flies 300 miles past d
The old models weren't approved for FIKI, I don't know where you are going with that. It was an added safety feature just like pitot heat. Is this your same rationale with airplanes with pitot heat. By putting pitot heat on a non-FIKI airplane you are just asking for trouble?
Wow what a dumb analogy. It's obvious that you are mixing up some cert criteria but so did I when I got started. What you are saying is that "it was an added safety feature just like pitot heat". Stop saying that, I think I know what you are trying to say but you are mixing everything up in a hopper and crap is coming out. The pitot tube is on there, and it did pass the cert process. Pitots, if i remember right can be VFR cert or IFR cert. Just because something on the plane IS certified for known ice in IFR doesn't mean every piece of the airplane is. I don't know if you remember (years back?) I used to post up when the eclipse 500 would lose it's IFR cert again. The whole plane lost the IFR cert because of the pitot tube but other parts of the airplane (like the wing de-ice) was still passing. Now anyone that's in the biz would be yelling at me right now because the cert process for the part 23 vlj's is different than the single engine cert. I really don't know how much help all this is unless you get in the industry for a bit and I wasn't in the biz for so long that I feel comfortable teaching you it. Give you an idea, I made just a bit more than the janitor as a jr. technician. I didn't bill out for 2k a day (get me?). Anyway, long story, to get to the point where I just say, your wrong, the FAA says so, the Insurance companies say so, and furthermore, Cirrus says so with clentched teeth.
So in answer to your question, no. But "no" because your question was phrased so poorly and it's not a one word answer to correct your line of thinking.
Tell ya what man, it's been a long time now since I've been in the certification industry. I'll see if I can dig up some old contacts and get the story ALL OVER AGAIN. At the time it was a big joke, one which persisted for years, but I can't remember the chronology on it all anymore. I also, for the life of me, can't remember how to make half the waveform generators I used to build and use on a daily basis.
Long story short. Cirrus wanted de-icing. They got some crap on there everyone told them wouldn't pass the environmental testing, they did it anyway and when it failed the cert testing (which means it has to pass ALL criteria, not 70% like a ppl written) they left it on saying "it costs too much to take off now". They were supposedly just going to leave it on and the FAA was happy because there'd be placards and book entries saying "don't fly into known icing". Fortunately, the insurance companies (who ratted cirrus out to the FAA) got wind of the Cirrus sales department telling customers that "we're not really suppose to say this, but it'll get you outa trouble". A lot of us were wondering if they took some pages outa the piper book when they used to throw crap on the planes that used to pass or just to make people believe there was "more safety" on this model than the other one. Long ago Cessna sold its first tricycle aircraft and their sales pitch was "you can just drive it off the ground", because it was obviously simplier than the tail-wheel. Feels like an OLD playbook that got tossed years ago when people were killing themselves partly due to salesmenship.
I think I've filled my quota on written replies today.
