beechpilot
Well-Known Member
Sorry to hear about more crapiness in this industry. Hopefully those affected can find something else.
Mesaba Announces Furloughs....
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OldTownPilot
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The worst thing I did with Comair was training new stations. The change of scenery was nice, but it was SOOOOOO stressful being one of two people out of 20 (and the only one on the ramp) that knew what an airplane looked like. Plus they had you work ridiculous hours, at least the pay check and per diem was nice.
SmoothLanderJ
Well-Known Member
Exactly. Im pretty sure alot of us guys flying the red-tailed regionals wanted no part of this merger....suck for everyone.
Please, let's not turn this into a "my regional is less crappy than your regional" thread. Although, we're about due for one of those.
Joe, if you flip you epaulets upside down, I will find you in the airport and punch you in the face.
LOL! Ill help.....
Good points there....
If you look close enough on some of those Pinnacle RJs, you might even still see NWA
LOL!! :laff: Now thats funny!
Once again good point.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
Man, it seems like the last furlough just happened there. When was it? 2006? That really sucks. One of my friends was really close to upgrading there.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Wait. So they're not reducing MEM CAs? Does that mean you're safe for now, or are you looking at maybe getting bumped by someone from MSP or DTW?
jynxyjoe
Queso King
not reducing us yet.
I've yet to read the language, but my understanding is that a MSP or DTW person could bump me down yes. This should knock me out of CA seat, if not I'll be the last guy on the list.
Bout time to flip those epaulettes and my frown, upside down!
meyers9163
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sopdan
Well-Known Member
This will be the first round of actual furloughs. There'll be a couple more coming.
meyers9163
Well-Known Member
I hate typing on a PS3... Cant even spell things right on them!
damn computer crashing!
WalterSobchak
Well-Known Member
Captains are forced to down grade in order of seniority(reverse). It's in the contract. You can't voluntarily downgrade(right now according to the union). So we need 65-75 to go down and the most junior 45 CA's are MEM so they will be downgraded and have to figure out where they want to go from there. If you aren't bidding under 20(out of 66) in MEM you will be saying "clear right" by winter.
MEM has quite a bit of saab flying with the Florida stuff and I guess we are doing ATL flying out of MEM as well so it wont shrink that much its just that most of the captains that are there wont be there(on the left side) in the coming months.
If we use a 70 ca reduction(they want 65-75) the bottom 45 will be gone from MEM and the bottom 25 off of DTW ca list. Then the deck will be reshuffled from there. No one in MSP is close to being downgraded just displaced. The most senior CA downgraded will be right around 620 or so which is 21/66 in MEM, 66/93 in DTW. The 3 most junior CA's in MSP are 607, 600, & 597.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
I think it's hilarious the at least one of the guys that will survive this is the reason the training department changed new FO's PC's to 11 months in so they could dump them.
Oh well, maybe reserve will treat that person some humility.
Clear Right!
WalterSobchak
Well-Known Member
I think it's hilarious the at least one of the guys that will survive this is the reason the training department changed new FO's PC's to 11 months in so they could dump them.
Oh well, maybe reserve will treat that person some humility.
Clear Right!
Does he have red hair????
There werent very many positive things said about that person. I never flew with him when he was an FO because I was in DTW. So everything to me is second hand info.
Wow, tell me about it. I was working for XJT when CAL put my station up for bid, which went to Eagle. I now work for Eagle, and feel like I am one of the only people at the station that has the slightest clue what they are doing, or even take their job seriously, and cares about doing their job well. I know more than some of the supervisors, even. It is VERY aggravating.
Several weeks ago, the lead agent/supervisor for my shift called in sick. On this particular day, he and I are literally the only two people who know how to work passenger service (gate, ticket counter, baggage, etc). This left me completely alone. I had to work the gate, with a flight delayed for three hours, rebook all 50 people by myself, meanwhile people were left at the ticket waiting for over an hour, while I dealt with this flight. Not a fun day!
There are so many instances where I have to run down from the gate, to the ramp, to marshall an airplane in, wing walk, etc., because the rampers don't meet flights on time. Then, it makes me look bad, because the pilots don't know any better. The other week I got chewed out by some FO, because they had to sit out and wait for rampers to come marshall them in. I was the gate agent, was busy at the gate, and it wasn't my job to be meeting the airplane. It was the rampers. To top this off, our station doesn't staff anybody full time in ops, to answer radio calls. This FO procedes to chew me out for nobody meeting the airplane, and nobody answering in ops .... as though that is my fault, or within my control ... which is a huge pet peeve of mine ... taking things out on people, or arguing with people who have no control over whatever the situation is, to begin with, and can't do anything about it. It is such a shame that this is what the airlines have gone to. I just can't wait to finish school, and leave!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
He was getting calmed down the last time he flew with me. Then I guess he went captain america. Oh well, hope he enjoys deep reserve.Does he have red hair????
There werent very many positive things said about that person. I never flew with him when he was an FO because I was in DTW. So everything to me is second hand info.
Clocks
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't take it too personally, he may be in the same position as you that day being screwed by work (not that its an excuse). In addition next time a crew talks to you about having to wait say "No kidding, we are really understaffed, you should complain to ______" and give them the name of someone who is responsible for listening to complaints. I wouldn't ever "chew someone out", but to me everyone at a lot of stations seems to do everything, saw gate agents on the ramp all the time, I never had a clue who was responsible for anything.
I just let the guy rant, and then let my supervisor know of his complaint (didn't complain about him, just let the supv. know that nobody was on the ramp, and that nobody was in ops to answer the radio). The FO was a bit rude about it, when all he had to do was pull me aside, and ask me to pass the complaint along. I had the same thing cross my mind, as you said; he was probably having a long day, maybe had been messed over by work, and was getting ready for his last leg.
It is crazy at some of these outstations. You just about have to do everything.
Alchemy
Well-Known Member
Hahaha, I think this might have been one of my FO's. I'm sorry man. Just imagine being locked up in a cockpit with him for about 25 hours in a week.
When exactly was this? If it was at the end of may I was probably the captain on that flight. I do remember pulling up and having no marshallers, and then the FO trying to call ops over the radio. We were about 10 mins early IIRC so I didn't really care. He had a commute to catch after we got back so he was upset. I'll just say that you weren't the only person he annoyed that week, so don't take it personally. He actually told me he was going to go "talk to the rampers" and I said "fine". Guess I should've stopped him. Personally when I was an FO the last thing I ever felt the need was bitch at anyone. I let the skipper handle those sorts of things. I guess he didn't share that philosophy.
