I'm suprised.

Doug Taylor said:
Millions of single folded $1 bills transacted nightly is certainly proof of this! Especially to loud, bassy rap music or hair metal! :)
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"Now, for your enjoyment, appearing on the main stage...."







Not that I've ever heard that phrase in person...:crazy:
 
Cptnchia said:
That was before my time here and all I can say is "Wow!"
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Me too...but what a great thread! "I'm a student pilot and want to sit in a window seat"!!!:rotfl:

As a side note, does anyone here play the following trick on newly licensed PPL's:

"Hey man, now that you are licensed you need to learn the following: when you board the plane or even better, in the gate area if you see the crew awaiting your plane - go up and respectfully introduce yourself. Tell them that you have just recieved your PPL and that you are in seat "XXX" in case they need assistance during the flight."

I wonder how many people actually end up doing this?
 
Me, uhh, either. Not that I was ever in a "murder of epauletless crows" down at "The Airport Lounge" when MKE was shut down because of snow.

"Hey, the chief pilot's here too, it must be ok!"
 
WacoFan said:
"Hey man, now that you are licensed you need to learn the following: when you board the plane or even better, in the gate area if you see the crew awaiting your plane - go up and respectfully introduce yourself. Tell them that you have just recieved your PPL and that you are in seat "XXX" in case they need assistance during the flight."

I wonder how many people actually end up doing this?
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Had a kid getting on board the other day who asked if he could watch us fly. Nice kid, who was interested in flying and was somewhat disappointed but took it in stride when I told him no. I don't mind kids doing it and try to accomodate them with sitting in the cockpit and taking a picture of them if they have a camera. Big people on the other hand....
 
Here's a general word of advice about buddy passes, and this is NOT necessarily aimed at the OP, (who comes from an airline family and knows & understands what a buddy pass is):

-A buddy pass rider needs to leave ALL sense of entitlement at home. An attitude will NOT get them anything. Period. Asking nicely for something is one thing, but getting pissy in ANY way about ANYTHING towards an employee is a serious no-no.

-Please, if you give a buddy pass to someone, make sure they understand exactly what they're getting in to. Make sure they understand the concept of "space available", and that they may very well not get on a flight. Make sure they understand all dress code requirements, behavior requirements, and even if they're already on the plane, seated with their bags put away, if the agent comes down and takes them off the plane, get off quickly & quietly and do NOT make a fuss.

-Make sure you spell out what the consequences are for bad behavior/attitude during their buddy pass travels. Show them in your employee handbook where it says (and I guarantee that it does say) that YOU, the EMPLOYEE, can and will be held accountable for their behavior, up to and including possible termination. People have been fired for their pass rider's behavior.

-If a legitimate problem (like you feel you should have gotten a seat) should come about, as a pass rider, be quiet, do what the employee tells you to do, and if you REALLY believe you've been wronged write down the specifics of what has happened and give the information to the employee. The employee can submit a written report and it, and the company WILL look into the issue. Do not make an issue of it at the time, it will not help. Write it up after the fact.


As you can see, life as a buddy pass rider doesn't allow you many "rights".... Many times, a person is better off searching for good ticket prices online and buying a real ticket, with all the rights and privileges thereof.

Bill doesn't give out buddy passes, and I very, very rarely gave out mine. It's just not worth it.
 
MQAAord said:
Here's a general word of advice about buddy passes, and this is NOT necessarily aimed at the OP, (who comes from an airline family and knows & understands what a buddy pass is):

-A buddy pass rider needs to leave ALL sense of entitlement at home. An attitude will NOT get them anything. Period. Asking nicely for something is one thing, but getting pissy in ANY way about ANYTHING towards an employee is a serious no-no.

-Please, if you give a buddy pass to someone, make sure they understand exactly what they're getting in to. Make sure they understand the concept of "space available", and that they may very well not get on a flight. Make sure they understand all dress code requirements, behavior requirements, and even if they're already on the plane, seated with their bags put away, if the agent comes down and takes them off the plane, get off quickly & quietly and do NOT make a fuss.

-Make sure you spell out what the consequences are for bad behavior/attitude during their buddy pass travels. Show them in your employee handbook where it says (and I guarantee that it does say) that YOU, the EMPLOYEE, can and will be held accountable for their behavior, up to and including possible termination. People have been fired for their pass rider's behavior.

-If a legitimate problem (like you feel you should have gotten a seat) should come about, as a pass rider, be quiet, do what the employee tells you to do, and if you REALLY believe you've been wronged write down the specifics of what has happened and give the information to the employee. The employee can submit a written report and it, and the company WILL look into the issue. Do not make an issue of it at the time, it will not help. Write it up after the fact.


As you can see, life as a buddy pass rider doesn't allow you many "rights".... Many times, a person is better off searching for good ticket prices online and buying a real ticket, with all the rights and privileges thereof.

Bill doesn't give out buddy passes, and I very, very rarely gave out mine. It's just not worth it.
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That should be a sticky
 
MQAAord said:
Here's a general word of advice about buddy passes, and this is NOT necessarily aimed at the OP, (who comes from an airline family and knows & understands what a buddy pass is):

-A buddy pass rider needs to leave ALL sense of entitlement at home. An attitude will NOT get them anything. Period. Asking nicely for something is one thing, but getting pissy in ANY way about ANYTHING towards an employee is a serious no-no.

-Please, if you give a buddy pass to someone, make sure they understand exactly what they're getting in to. Make sure they understand the concept of "space available", and that they may very well not get on a flight. Make sure they understand all dress code requirements, behavior requirements, and even if they're already on the plane, seated with their bags put away, if the agent comes down and takes them off the plane, get off quickly & quietly and do NOT make a fuss.

-Make sure you spell out what the consequences are for bad behavior/attitude during their buddy pass travels. Show them in your employee handbook where it says (and I guarantee that it does say) that YOU, the EMPLOYEE, can and will be held accountable for their behavior, up to and including possible termination. People have been fired for their pass rider's behavior.

-If a legitimate problem (like you feel you should have gotten a seat) should come about, as a pass rider, be quiet, do what the employee tells you to do, and if you REALLY believe you've been wronged write down the specifics of what has happened and give the information to the employee. The employee can submit a written report and it, and the company WILL look into the issue. Do not make an issue of it at the time, it will not help. Write it up after the fact.

As you can see, life as a buddy pass rider doesn't allow you many "rights".... Many times, a person is better off searching for good ticket prices online and buying a real ticket, with all the rights and privileges thereof.
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Absolutely. I don't personally know anyone it's happened to, but I know of people it's happened to and it's a very real possibility if a non-rev pax can't control his or her behavior.

DPA, I do understand where you're coming from though. After flying non-rev with 3 airlines and no problems, UAL is the only one I was denied a trip on, 3 flights in a row on my first outbound leg due to "no space" when there was space. I still have no idea what the reason for it was, but it's never something I've had occur on another carrier...
 
My father-in-law was such a toolsac on a PAID TICKET he almost got my wife's travel bennies revoked.

I had to do some serious butt kissing and grovelling so she could keep them.

And he PAID for his ticket. :guns::guns:

You just can't fix stupid sometimes.
 
The whole buddy pass thing reminds me of a conversation that FlyChicaga and I had with someone in Paris.

"Should I give my buddy passes to Tony so he can come and see you?"

"Why would you want to do that to me? And to her? I'd probably get stuck in Frankfurt or Heathrow, and she'd be waiting at the airport wondering where the hell I am."

"Actually, I'd probably go home and figure you missed the flight."

How do you say crash and burn in French?:laff:
 
Polar742 said:
My father-in-law was such a toolsac on a PAID TICKET he almost got my wife's travel bennies revoked.

I had to do some serious butt kissing and grovelling so she could keep them.

And he PAID for his ticket. :guns::guns:

You just can't fix stupid sometimes.
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wait.. so it was a full fare ticket? how can she possibly get in trouble if he's on a full fare ticket? that makes no sense
 
Kristie said:
wait.. so it was a full fare ticket? how can she possibly get in trouble if he's on a full fare ticket? that makes no sense
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He's that big of an ass.

It's official that we'll both be there for NJC, so you can ask her the story. :beer:
 
pullup said:
I actually miss Chris_Ford, he was hella-entertaining.
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Very straight forward, funny quips too !
If I use that girls logic I should go up to every 320pilot and tell them "I should be able to jumpseat, cause I'm a PILOT, and IVE FLOWN THE A320 SIM!"


Wow, just wow.

So if your a student pilot you must have a window?

I guess since I'm a private, I should get a jumpseat or exit?
 
DPApilot said:
Ouch Jim!

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Wasn't meant to be a direct hit. Whether the GA was right or wrong, the minute you showed them a dispatch release which you probably shouldn't have had, any chance you had may have went out the door.

You know the non-rev circus....Right or wrong, you are at the mercy of the GA. I played the same game at NWA. Once when going through TPA to Mo-bay the agent was not helping me so while waiting I placed a call to the data center where I worked. I knew exactly where I was listed and what was open. The agent was trying to get some friends ;) on the flight.

When there was no one at the desk, I inquired about my status and mentioned that I work on the data center and knew exactly where I was listed. A few keys were punched and magically I had my boarding pass.
 
JEP said:
Wasn't meant to be a direct hit. Whether the GA was right or wrong, the minute you showed them a dispatch release which you probably shouldn't have had, any chance you had may have went out the door.

You know the non-rev circus....Right or wrong, you are at the mercy of the GA. I played the same game at NWA. Once when going through TPA to Mo-bay the agent was not helping me so while waiting I placed a call to the data center where I worked. I knew exactly where I was listed and what was open. The agent was trying to get some friends ;) on the flight.

When there was no one at the desk, I inquired about my status and mentioned that I work on the data center and knew exactly where I was listed. A few keys were punched and magically I had my boarding pass.
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I only showed him the dispatch sheet after they pushed back. I had tried to enquire earlier if they knew how it was looking when he wasn't busy and all he said was "just wait!" so I sat down. When my friend tested me asking if I had a seat I said "no" and he said "why? There are 2 open seats!". That's what irked me, knowing I was number 2 on the stand by list...

It is what it is, he apologized, I'm home. I'm happy.
 
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