"Remember 3407" Airline Labor Reform Act

You might try reaching out to Rep. Pete Olson TX - 22 he is a pilot,- former Naval Aviator on the P3 Orion-, the ranking member on the air and space house sub-committee and a good guy whose campaign I worked on for a couple of months. Unfortunately, most of my contacts never transitioned to Capital hill after the election so I don't know how much help I can be but I can try.
 
galvestonaggie said:
You might try reaching out to Rep. Pete Olson TX - 22 he is a pilot,- former Naval Aviator on the P3 Orion-, the ranking member on the air and space house sub-committee and a good guy whose campaign I worked on for a couple of months. Unfortunately, most of my contacts never transitioned to Capital hill after the election so I don't know how much help I can be but I can try.
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Great tip! We'll keep that in mind.

In the meantime, write him a letter. We'll get this going one way or the other.
 
You should get a seperate thread/sticky on this and other forums where people who have actually sent a letter can list themselves, kind of like an honor roll... Maybe it'll catch on.
 
Mattio said:
You should get a seperate thread/sticky on this and other forums where people who have actually sent a letter can list themselves, kind of like an honor roll... Maybe it'll catch on.
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We'll have something even better coming in about a week or so.

Great idea, though!
 
AIM Chat today about proposed regulatory changes at 12:30 Central time, TODAY.

Please join us if you'd like to contribute or listen in.

AIM buddy chat room name: jetcareers
 
Firebird2XC said:
AIM Chat today about proposed regulatory changes at 12:30 Central time, TODAY.

Please join us if you'd like to contribute or listen in.

AIM buddy chat room name: jetcareers
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Bout to leave. But I'd like to add, NO MORE scheduled reduce rests (on pairings for any company). Maybe thats a dick thing to do, but thats my vote.
 
Kestrel452 said:
so what sould we do next?
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Asked and answered here:D :
http://forums.jetcareers.com/general-topics/88884-aim-chat-remember-3407-today-12-30-a.html

Kestrel452 said:
So, what's our next step?
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Firebird2XC said:
Codification.

In other words, find the legal documents these topics need to be inserted into, and write them to modify that text.

In the meantime, we keep public opinion focused on the issue and get them to write their elected officials.
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Remember, nothing is immediate. It will take some time and effort to get the language right, find the right people to move this forward and so forth. We've got the foundation built. Now it's time to build up.
 
Seggy said:
Need to start thinking about fundraising I would think as well.
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Agreed. We're working on 501(c) status, or appropriate variation thereof.

We're going nonprofit. :)

Anybody with past experience or bright ideas about nonprofit status, please feel free to speak up.

This major financing stuff is totally virgin territory for yours truly, so it leaves me feeling a bit like my avatar.
 
I have ideas, will be in touch this week, you will also want to start a Political Action Committee....
 
Seggy said:
I have ideas, will be in touch this week, you will also want to start a Political Action Committee....
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Something to that extent, yes. Seems we can't be tax exempt and still attempt to influence legislation. Hence the PAC requirement.

This should be interesting. :)
 
I'll come out of JF retirement to comment on this....

In my opinion:

You guys are attacking this problem from the wrong direction. Your efforts and intentions are honorable, but legislation will never solve the problems of this industry. And in all likelihood will result in more restrictive duty rules that will only reduce the pay credit hours for scheduled lines. You may get lucky and somehow manage to get a min pay set into law. But this will be offset by air carriers by reducing how often a pilot will fly.

Since this industry was engineered into a form of mass transit by the Legacy carrier board rooms professional pay and quality of life was lost for pilots and flight attendants. Any grass roots effort to deal with all of the issues effecting us needs to weigh heavily the potential for backfire. The old adage of "Be careful what you wish for!" comes well into play here.

My opinion is to launch an organized campaign to educate new pilots and wood be flight attendants on the state of life at the industry's entry level employers. Convince them to not take that 19K per year right seat job etc..

America is presently suffering the worse case of apathy that it has seen in its history as a nation. The bottom line is that the flying public will feign concern over these issues right up to the point where they can no longer buy cheap airfares. Legislation no matter how good it looks on paper will not result in improvements of work conditions at regional carriers. It will likely reduce our pay even further or simply change the way we can work keeping salaries unchanged. I.e. minimum hourly rates will merely be offset by reduced work hours and the hiring of even more pilots to fill vacant seats. The respective carrier management's will simply find suitable work arounds to any new laws to perpetuate the status quo.

Any new legislation that intercepts these problems will likely never pass due to them being far to socialist in nature. Short of launching a law making campaign to re-regulate and nationalize air carriers this, is in my opinion, the wrong tree to bark up...As much as I wish it would work this issue has a nasty double edge to it. I'll support any effort made that seriously considers the bite you in the butt factor...

Many of us feel this way, thus you have a two sided challenge, draft legislation that is creative enough to deal with these roadblocks without a socialist aire. And convince enough working pilots that your solution has minimal negative backlash. You have a daunting challenge. One certainly worthy of the undertaking if successful but you have many details to work out before your campaign can take off. I hope you are up to it. We do need something done.
 
RightSeatGirl said:
You have a daunting challenge. One certainly worthy of the undertaking if successful but you have many details to work out before your campaign can take off. I hope you are up to it. We do need something done.
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I do appreciate something needs to be done.

Of course flexibility in dealing with future situations is a necessity, this is something we've taken as a matter of core principle.

Try not to be so pessimistic. Standing around handwringing won't solve anything.
 
Firebird2XC said:
I do appreciate something needs to be done.

Of course flexibility in dealing with future situations is a necessity, this is something we've taken as a matter of core principle.

Try not to be so pessimistic. Standing around handwringing won't solve anything.
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I agree with you that taking action is certainly needed...but what I'm pessimistic over is the legislation angle...not the taking action part.

Kestrel452 said:
Absolutely correct. A less than perfect plan is better than no plan at all.
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Not if the end result makes things even worse then they are now..



Here are some thoughts...

One...what your effort needs to do as step one is identify and acknowledge the group of individuals that have the most influence on QOL at the regionals...And it's not Congress...Nor is it the management of regional carriers...

The group who you first need to convince are the senior pilots at the legacy carriers. Those guys control far more with our industry then most realize or want to admit to. If you get them on board...you'll have the biggest challenge overcome. You have to convince them that improvements at the regionals are good for them..so good that they need to come on board with the effort...short of that...this will die a quick death...I state this as opinion...not fact.
 
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