Zero to Hero Concept

ILSstud

ILSstud

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So I was chatting with an acquaintance of mine...She got hired with something around 550 hrs back during the hiring boom. Needless to say she is now furloughed. We were talking about the industry this morning, and my numerous reasons why I did NOT want to be in the airline biz as a pilot. I mentioned that the hiring boom we had the past couple years just wasn't sustainable and turning out pilots with 250-300 hours and sending them into CRJs was foolish. She wholeheartedly disagreed with me and viewed this as some sort of personal attack. Am I wrong here?? Isn't it a generally accepted principle that piloting a jet requires "some" amount of experience, whether that be through CFI or flying small airplanes before graduating onto a passenger airliner?....:confused: Needless to say she left the table...and I enjoyed my coffee and newspaper.
 
Hehe. Yeah she's a little defensive. Funny thing, I noticed when I graduated in '03 (couldn't even get a CFI job) all the girls got hired then with low time too... hu. That's kinda weird.

On a side note: when I get furloughed I'm putting a wig on for my interview.
 
I just had a sim session with a female instructor that graduated a few years before me. She openly admitted that she felt like she had numerous job interviews simply because she was female.

Combine that with a personality that breeds a sense of entitlement and/or denial...
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
I just had a sim session with a female instructor that graduated a few years before me. She openly admitted that she felt like she had numerous job interviews simply because she was female.

Combine that with a personality that breeds a sense of entitlement and/or denial...
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I knew I should have showed more cleavage at my last few interviews! :D

But yeah, I think we all know about women and aviation. I know a girl that crashed the Sim three times at her ASA interview and she still got hired...
 
For fear of getting the women mad on the forum about this being sexist.....for the record, I like women :-)...just saying.
 
I will always remember the stories of a Spirit CA talking about his Riddlets in the right seat trying to kill him and his joy of babysitting.
 
I believe some can handle it and some can't. Some would do well with 1,500 tt under their belt. Some should never.
I've never been there, don't know and nothing against you but she has been there.
 
Douglas said:
I believe some can handle it and some can't. Some would do well with 1,500 tt under their belt. Some should never.
I've never been there, don't know and nothing against you but she has been there.
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I think the 1500 hr rule isn't enough.

It should be a minimum of 1679 hours prior to getting hired.






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Douglas said:
I believe some can handle it and some can't. Some would do well with 1,500 tt under their belt. Some should never.
I've never been there, don't know and nothing against you but she has been there.
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Indeed she has been there....I'm not trying to come across as being combative or negative towards her flying career, but I personally think 250-300 hrs is a short time to develop the qualities necessary to handle a plane like that. I may be wrong, I was just offering my opinion, and I am curious what others with more experience think.
 
ILSstud said:
Indeed she has been there....I'm not trying to come across as being combative or negative towards her flying career, but I personally think 250-300 hrs is a short time to develop the qualities necessary to handle a plane like that. I may be wrong, I was just offering my opinion, and I am curious what others with more experience think.
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It is...that's why there is a Captain there. He/she should be getting instructor pay.
 
The reason why I didn't go running to the airlines was because I wanted the personal experience of flying actual cross countries from East to West coast. I learned a lot and have applied it to flying at the airlines.

If you don't have the experience or some sort of basis, instead of reading a book, then go get it before you have the captain working double-time to drag you along in the flight.

I'm glad I waited, but of course furloughed now.
 
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We all know there are down turns and then up turns...do the minimums tend to change so drastically from say 300-500 minimums to 1500 or more when the market changes? I mean this is one of my primary reasons why I don't know if i have the patience, drive, or a combination of the two to get into this profession. It just seems the risk of furlough and then being out of a job for a while unless you have thousands of hours seems pretty high. Either way, I hope the market picks up for everyone.
 
N826AW said:
You will never get a woman to admit she was wrong. EVER. So stop trying.
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So funny you mention that. Yet another thing I've learned in training this week...

We were doing our pre-sim briefing today, and the last slide of the PowerPoint presentations is always a CRM circle to remind you to work as a crew. As the instructor, a male this time, clicked right by it, he said "yeah, that never seems to work with women"
 
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