You need a mile to depart on a 135 flight.
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ppragman
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What do your opspecs say? Do you have C057 and what’s the lowest straight in category I approach mind to that airport. That’s the first question. We need more context first.
Itchy
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You need a mile to depart. You have a mile for realz, but the awos (installed somewhere else on the field, or whaky) is reporting less than a mile.
Roger Roger
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Tail of the airplane towards the visibility sensor and do a power run.
gotWXdagain
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Taxi back, shut down, call FSS.
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Roger Roger
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I think you already know the answer. In 135 we’re bound in most cases by official reports and observations regardless of what reality may be. With an untowered airport your bag of tricks is a lot shallower too. I assume no RVR either?
Roger Roger
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Report the visibility sensor unreliable and depart VFR based on your own observation.
Itchy
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Except in this scenario, it is obviously IFR, just that the reported weather is significantly worse than the reality.
Roger Roger
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I should have had the sarcasm tag. Though I’m sure that’s happened.
Crockrocket94
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Whats that term.. prevailing flight visibility?
Roger Roger
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Uh...under 135 prevailing flight visibility only matters when you break out on an approach. Everything else I can think of you’re bound by the official reports/forecasts.
ppragman
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I've done it when it's fog. Clear and a million but the AWOS is calling 3/4 mile because it sits in a bowl? That's exactly what VFR is for.
Now I've seen people do it the other way - calling M1/4 and fog and they call the AWOS and give an erroneous report and blast anyway under VFR - that's bad. <rolls up newspaper>NO!
deadstick
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Roger Roger
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Skagway, when they’re sweeping the runway in spring and dust get into the vis sensor...
Crockrocket94
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Probably right. Break the AWOS and make your own call.
Roger Roger
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Shot yourself in the foot, can’t leave under 135 with a busted AWOS.
gotWXdagain
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Is the airspace at the surface controlled or uncontrolled?
Crockrocket94
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Pretty sure we have something in the ops specs for no weather reporting. Haven't looked in a while.
gotWXdagain
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Eligible on-demand with an SIC that meets the requirements?
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Roger Roger
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Ah yeah, that would do it. I’ve only done single pilot so I forget that EOD is a thing and what it can do.
