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Do you know how much longer they intend to use the KC-135's? Or are they still having trouble with the 767 tanker lease?

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The first ones flew 50 years ago. They built about 670 +/- of them. Probably half, maybe more, still flying. Rewinged, reengined, reavioniced (neat word, huh)

You do the math...at that rate, oh I'd say 2050 on the short side!

"When the last airplane in the inventory is taken to the bone yard, a KC135 will fly in to pick up the crew." Old Tanker Toad Truism!
 
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All in all it was a very reliable system. Never lost water on a single engine in 14 years of flying the water wagon. Once the water "kicked in" it was a good system.



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There was an EC-135 that was taking off from Kirtland in 1977. Story is, it lost water on takeoff, or lost an engine. But the wreckage is still visible on the Mozano Mountains that are on base. The Mozanos used to be a nuke storage area, and when the plane crashed there (about 3 miles from the end of RW 8), the nuke guards wouldn't let the crash-rescue vehicles in for a while. Everyone was killed apparently anyways, but there's still a fair amount of wreckage there.
 
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Since I am actually planning on entering the medical sector when I get out if I am not doing well with college i.e. commisioning.

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Go USAF medical! Wanna be an Airman living the life of a civilian...or is it a civilian wearing a USAF uniform??
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I am interested in Radiology and I don't like to shave, oh and I like money. I think I'll be a civillian if I go that route!
 
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All in all it was a very reliable system. Never lost water on a single engine in 14 years of flying the water wagon. Once the water "kicked in" it was a good system.



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There was an EC-135 that was taking off from Kirtland in 1977. Story is, it lost water on takeoff, or lost an engine. But the wreckage is still visible on the Mozano Mountains that are on base. The Mozanos used to be a nuke storage area, and when the plane crashed there (about 3 miles from the end of RW 8), the nuke guards wouldn't let the crash-rescue vehicles in for a while. Everyone was killed apparently anyways, but there's still a fair amount of wreckage there.

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That had nothing to do with water injection, as there is an airport altitude above which you don’t use it. Also I don’t think they lost an engine, but can’t be too sure on that point as it was nearly 30 years ago. Had to do with not knowing the climb profile after flap retraction until reaching climb speed of 285.

Contributing to that was the difference between the way SAC and TAC flew -135s. Who computed takeoff data and familiarity with climb profiles.

The takeoff profile for the -135 was a V2+10 climb to a specific altitude dependent on weight and a few other things. Then you essentially leveled off, accelerated to flap retract speed, retracted the flaps and while still maintaining level flight accelerated to climb speed.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to stand at the west end of runway 8 at ABQ, look straight ahead and figure out just about where you'll hit the dirt, rocks and trees with that profile. Unfortunately nobody did, it was night, they took off and the rest was history. I was an IP at Castle and got involved in that accident. By then we had the FD109 in the KC135 and were using an accelerated climb profile where you didn’t level off, but kept climbing all throughout flap retraction (which started at 200 AGL) all the way up to enroute climb speed. If memory serves me right the TAC was the old level off and clean up/accelerate profile.

I've flown quite a few times from ABQ to DFW in the Mad Dog. Always thought about those guys as we took off then made that quick right turn.

FWIW the tricky approach was the "Delta Special Visual" to runway 26 at night. Kind of a right left rollout maneuver. Slow, dirty, small turn radius descent. At night you could see the tops of the dirt, rocks and trees by the lights of the city beyond. Made you really use the old situation awareness!

RNO landing south at night is a little like it.

Having the glass cockpit in the MD88 and 90 helped.
 
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I was an IP at Castle and got involved in that accident. By then we had the FD109 in the KC135 and were using an accelerated climb profile where you didn’t level off,

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You ever work the Phoenix Air Guard -135A that had the midair with the Grumman Yankee in 1982 as it was decending out of the clouds on the TACAN 3L approach? Crashed into the Perryville prison just north of I-10.

Or how about the 135As (Loring AFB bird, or maybe a Chicago Air Guard bird, I believe), that blew up in midair.....I believe due to the tank pumpbeing left on in an empty tank and no fuel to cool it. Another 135 blew up on the ground during maintenance at Milwaukee killing 6 maintenance guys, but don't know if it was for the same reason

Also was studying a ground collision of 2 135s at the old Lockbourne AFB in 1973. Big fire erupted and a few fatalities.

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FWIW the tricky approach was the "Delta Special Visual" to runway 26 at night. Kind of a right left rollout maneuver. Slow, dirty, small turn radius descent. At night you could see the tops of the dirt, rocks and trees by the lights of the city beyond. Made you really use the old situation awareness

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I've been at Kirtland for the past few weeks, and watched a number of airliners bump and weave onto final when 26 was the active. Neat sight.
 
You know, speaking of 135s, there's a number of weird accidents in that community. In accident investigation school at Kirtland, I remember a listing of 135 accidents (we happened to be covering 135s) and there were a number of interesting ones that I can remember off the top of my head:

1977, KC-135A at Beale AFB lands and strikes a herd of cattle that had wandered onto the runway. Aircraft overran the runway and caught fire. Destroyed.

1975, KC-135A crashes on a frozen lake near Eielson AFB following a gear malfunction. Didn't get into this one much, but sounds eerily like a Eastern 401-esqe accident.

1971, C-135 that was being used out of Hickam AB to monitor French nuke testing disappears on one such flight.

1969, RC-135E "Rivet Amber" recon plane out of Shemya AB, snooping out the coast of the former Soviet Union reports heavy vibration inflight. No further transmissions other than mysterious mic clicking heard prior to the aircraft crashing at sea. No survivors.

1987, KC-135 gets caught in wake turbulance of B-52 during airshow practice and crashes at Fairchild AFB, crew killed as well as one person in a vehicle on the ground. From what I heard, the scheduled navigator for the flight had been taken off the crew for a sinus problem and was replaced with another prior to the accident flight. After the 135 lost control in the turbulance and as it was heading to the ground, the car it crashed into was that of the sick navigator that had gotten off the flight earlier, and he was killed by the same plane he was supposed to have flown on.
 
Keep posting about all this neat information. Quite entertaining and I can barely grasp what exactly you guys are talking about. Anyone work with the KC-10, I wanna hear about them too!
 
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1987, KC-135 gets caught in wake turbulance of B-52 during airshow practice and crashes at Fairchild AFB, crew killed as well as one person in a vehicle on the ground. From what I heard, the scheduled navigator for the flight had been taken off the crew for a sinus problem and was replaced with another prior to the accident flight. After the 135 lost control in the turbulance and as it was heading to the ground, the car it crashed into was that of the sick navigator that had gotten off the flight earlier, and he was killed by the same plane he was supposed to have flown on.

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Kinda like that movie Final Destination, lol
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Anyone work with the KC-10, I wanna hear about them too!

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You ever work the Phoenix Air Guard -135A that had the midair with the Grumman Yankee in 1982 as it was decending (sic) out of the clouds on the TACAN 3L approach? Crashed into the Perryville prison just north of I-10.

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Learned a lot about that. Real good friend of mine, Sandy Mackelprang, another former Castle IP was an ART at that unit when it happened. (I was at the Grissom AFB Reserve unit by then) If memory serves me right the light airplane was kind of flying formation with another one and they were at the WRONG altitude to transition that area. KC135 was on a TACAN approach, came out of the clouds, and hit the light airplane just forward of the right horizontal stabilizer on the KC135.

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Or how about the 135As (Loring AFB bird, or maybe a Chicago Air Guard bird, I believe), that blew up in midair.....I believe due to the tank pumpbeing (sic) left on in an empty tank and no fuel to cool it. Another 135 blew up on the ground during maintenance at Milwaukee killing 6 maintenance guys, but don't know if it was for the same reason.

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Both of those were due to the air refueling pumps, which were hydraulic, running with no fuel in the tank. Fuel was needed to cool them. Bad part was, the lights that indicated low pressure, hence dry tank, weren't illuminated which was the only way you knew the tank was empty. Had to do with years and years of modifications on the planes and some how a way for the pump to run unknown to the crew had crept into the system.

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Also was studying a ground collision of 2 135s at the old Lockbourne AFB in 1973. Big fire erupted and a few fatalities.

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Very, very, very foggy day. Had a moving alert exercise. At the time there were thermal radiation (nuclear flash blast protection) installed in all but front windows. That, combined with the fog led to one airplane turning into another one. Wing of one went into the cockpit of the other.

There were several others I got involved in or knew of one way or another. (no particular order...just from memory)

1. Castle KC135 hit a herd of cattle on the runway at Beale one night when shooting touch and go landings. No fatalities except several cows.

2. Castle KC135 crashed doing an engine cut on the runway when the student pilot put in full wrong rudder and they ran off the runway. Five fatalities I think. Sadly the boom operator, MSgt Al Evans, was on his last flight before retirement.

3. KC135/F4 midair during refueling when the F4 got into a major league PIO. Score KC135 one, F4 zero as the KC135 recovered, F4 crashed. No fatalities.

4. KC10 that blew up on the ramp at Barksdale in 1987. One fatality, a maintenance man, Joe Berggio in the rear of the airplane.

5. KC135 crashed on takeoff from UTapao AB during Vietnam era tanker operations. Lost an engine, blew a front tire, hit the approach lights. All perished. We were #2 in cell behind them and I still have some very old pictures of the fire and smoke I took from the cockpit. This was in 1968, my first tour flying Young Tiger tanker missions.

6. Castle KC135 doing dutch roll and practice emergency descent tore tail off and crashed near Mt. Lassen in northern California. They found the stress of those maneuvers which we did in training caused the mounting holes on the rudder to elongate, finally fracturing. We stopped doing both maneuvers in the mid 70s, when I was an IP out there.

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I've been at Kirtland for the past few weeks, and watched a number of airliners bump and weave onto final when 26 was the active. Neat sight.

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Been there, done that, got the tee shirt. It was always really bumpy due to the winds. From what I remember a wind out of the west wasn't that common as we generally landed on runway 8. Also remember using 17/35 (I think) when 8/26 was undergoing construction.
 
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Keep posting about all this neat information. Quite entertaining and I can barely grasp what exactly you guys are talking about. Anyone work with the KC-10, I wanna hear about them too!

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I spent 12 years in the KC135 and 13 in the KC10 out of my 28 years. Spent one year in ACSC the rest were pilot training and a year in the C7 Caribou in Vietnam.

Anything in particular you want to know about the KC10.

Great airplane! Great mission! Great unit, 78th Air Refueling Squadron, Barksdale AFB. I was honored to be in the first group of pilots there and spent a tour as the commander. Greatest experience of my aviation career.
 
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You know, speaking of 135s,...

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I'll get back to you on a lot of these. Knew some people involved, some who sadly were fatalities.
 
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You know, speaking of 135s, there's a number of weird accidents in that community. In accident investigation school at Kirtland, I remember a listing of 135 accidents (we happened to be covering 135s) and there were a number of interesting ones that I can remember off the top of my head:

1977, KC-135A at Beale AFB lands and strikes a herd of cattle that had wandered onto the runway. Aircraft overran the runway and caught fire. Destroyed.

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This was almost a comedy even if it was something that could have been a real tragedy. I was a Castle IP at the time and knew the entire crew. IP on board was John McKnight, who eventually went to Air Florida and then TWA. The Castle CCTS tanker sorties used Beale, Travis, and Mather for transition bases due to the sheer volume of flights each day. This was a night flight which meant transition training was in the early AM. (had to do with “night” nav training having to be at, well…er “night”!) Apparently cows on the base were really a common sight as there was adjacent land that had a lot of cattle grazing on them. This night a herd got on the runway and kind of “bedded down”. A near tragedy was avoided as a deployed airplane full of people had landed just an hour or so before, obviously before the cattle showed up. Had they been her a plane with 60 or so folks in it would have been involved. Anyhow John and his crew flew a missed approach, which apparently stirred up the herd who began ambling down the runway. Next time they did a touch and go. Just as the nose came down, as John (who had a real sense of humor) said in the debrief, “saw something”…a real understatement, as there was a heard of maybe 20 or so cows they hit!

When the nose gear hit the firsts “bovine blocker” it got ripped off and went through the forward body tank, starting a pretty good fire. Next the left main gear hit more of the herd and that ripped it off. Now the airplane, still moving smartly, was on it’s now flaming fuselage and the left outboard engine rather than all three gear. Immediately started veering left.

Here’s where it gets interesting according to John’s story.

The crew knew something was wrong, no [censored]! The could see the glow of the fire now present in the left wing as the #1 engine was ground down and the magnesium gear case caught fire. (note: magnesium burns VERY brightly) John said they began discussing what was next. Very calm too. They all rolled their gloves up, sleeves down and collars up because they knew they might have to get through some fire to get out. The pilot in the jump seat was composed enough to call the tower and tell them to “roll the fire trucks”! There were two crew members in the back. They felt the impacts got up and started moving forward. When the got to the cockpit they looked back and by now the cargo compartment was on fire due to the forward body tank fire burning through the floor!

By now the airplane had departed the runway and was slowing down. The crew was getting ready for a ground evac, started unstrapping, opening windows, tossing out evacuation ropes and all that stuff. There were seven on board. Two in the pilots seats, one in the jumpseat just aft of the center console, one student nav, one student boom and the instructor nav and boom. The instructor boom and instructor nav were the two who came up from the back. When the airplane finally came to a stop, the last thing it did was a quick 180 turn which helped sling the fuel pouring out of the ruptured tanks to the right of the plane, keeping it from sloshing forward to the cockpit. The first one out of the left window was John who just dropped to the ground which was a lot closer than normal due to not having a nose gear holding up the cockpit! The guy in the jump seat next as the copilot went out the right side, using the rope as it was a longer drop due to the airplane being over on the left side. (remember there was NO left gear either) Next out was the jumpseater who was a pilot student. He basically dove straight out the open window, the one John had just used. Only problem was John had more or less fallen out, and was just getting out as this big dude comes flying out the window, landing right on top of John, flattening him! Nobody got hurt and they both got up and took off, nearly getting run over by the fire trucks who were on the spot, thanks to the earlier call.

The rest of the crew exit the windows with more finesse than the jumpseat pilot and John had done. All escaped with only minor injuries. The closest anybody came to being burned was the instructor boom. He was the last one out, and used the right window. As he was climbing down the side of the airplane a blast of fire shot out of a fuel vent on the side of the fuselage near him and gave him a little “singe job” but nothing else.

Eventually fire consumed what was left of the airplane, along with what ever embedded parts of beef were in it.

Couple of funny things came out of the investigation.

The determined exactly which cow got hit first. The found the nose gear landing light imbedded in the remains of the carcass! The next night the crew, after being checked over and some debriefing were offered free steak dinners at the O-club! Who says even in the midst of the total destruction of an airplane due to a crash there can’t be humor.

In the end nobody got hurt which was good.

The analysis pointed out that the problem was not the presence of cattle on the base itself but that they had managed to make it into the air operations area. As a result a “cow proof” fence was put around it. Prior to that there was just the normal barbed wire fence. It was discovered that when one of those range cattle starts grazing if they come to a barb wire strand fence, they just stick their head between the strands and keep right on grazing. Once past the fence strands return to their original position and no one knows they ever went through. Took some high altitude photos of Beal to show the trails the cows had used for years to get in and around the runway! Amazing, truly amazing.

So much for the “night the cows died” (with apologies to Paper Lace and their song “The Night Chicago Died”)

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1975, KC-135A crashes on a frozen lake near Eielson AFB following a gear malfunction. Didn't get into this one much, but sounds eerily like a Eastern 401-esqe accident.

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Trying to remember this. If it’s the one I’m thinking about the crew was executing a series of instrument approaches at a different runway and lost situation awareness. Ended up in the dirt, rocks and trees, albeit frozen. They were using a KC135 but were RC135 types. This was common practice for instrument work as the RC135s were a pretty pricey asset to be used just for pilot instrument proficiency. A distracting malfunction may have contributed but I just don’t remember.

There was a Castle KC135 that crashed at Beale under a similar “distraction” scenario. Drug an engine on a touch and go, had a fire. IP took charge, tried to fly, talk, coordinate, while pulling up for a unnecessarily (IMHO) quick return. The classic “nobody flying the airplane”! Stalled, rolled over and crashed on downwind with three good engines and one with a fire on the bottom of the cowling from a drain valve that got knocked off in the touch and go.

If any lesson can be learned from this one it’s in any abnormal or emergency situation, somebody’s got to FLY THE AIRPLANE!

And like I put in my musings…..”Wind the clock, FIRST!”

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1971, C-135 that was being used out of Hickam AB to monitor French nuke testing disappears on one such flight.

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Can't remember a thing about this one.

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1969, RC-135E "Rivet Amber" recon plane out of Shemya AB, snooping out the coast of the former Soviet Union reports heavy vibration inflight. No further transmissions other than mysterious mic clicking heard prior to the aircraft crashing at sea. No survivors.

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If memory serves me right this was a one of a kind airplane. I had a big chunk of the upper fuselage removed and some sort of recon equipment installed with a hatch that actually opened up in flight. The compartment was obviously not pressurized. A buddy of mine flew out of that unit and he speculates that the removal of so much of the structure eventually led to a catastrophic failure and nearly instantaneous inflight breakup of the aircraft. I thought though he called it one of the “Cobra Ball” aircraft. The “Rivet Amber” name may have been the mission.

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1987, KC-135 gets caught in wake turbulance of B-52 during airshow practice and crashes at Fairchild AFB, crew killed as well as one person in a vehicle on the ground. From what I heard, the scheduled navigator for the flight had been taken off the crew for a sinus problem and was replaced with another prior to the accident flight. After the 135 lost control in the turbulance and as it was heading to the ground, the car it crashed into was that of the sick navigator that had gotten off the flight earlier, and he was killed by the same plane he was supposed to have flown on.

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This is one that always gets me, for several reasons.

The crew member on the ground was the boom operator, a young man who had been a student on my crew at Castle, and later came back as an instructor. He did get taken off the crew due to illness and drove his car out to a spot near the runway to watch the show. Then the airplane ended up crashing on top of him. If memory serves me right it was some time before his family even knew what happened to him as it wasn’t immediately known that the airplane had crashed on top of a car. For a while he was just missing and nobody knew what had happened to him. A real tragedy, but one of those that puts meaning into a belief that God does control when we will be taken.

There was a time when SAC had a string of serious crashes. And the following is IMHO, my personal take on events! (sort of a disclaimer to protect Doug’s web site if you will)

For years and years SAC had more or less been the top dog in the Air Force as one after another Chief of Staff positions came out of SAC. This really grated on the TAC types. Eventually they got their way and one of their own became CINCSAC, i.e. the command was about to be “TACimcised!” The new guys first order of business was to make SAC like TAC, specifically to put stan/eval at the unit level and virtually no where else. This was a direct opposite to the way SAC had been organized since Curt LeMay started it. It had always been a highly structured, from the top, standardized to a gnats ass command. Especially in the crew operating business. And it WORKED! They had an enviable safety record. Sure they were a bit of an overbearing dinosaur that needed a little tweaking from time to time, but the bedrock foundation of SAC was the best there was. Trust me, I spent an entire career in it. It worked, and worked good.

But the new CINC took a different approach. He decided to completely tear down the command, break up that foundation that had been around since day one, and start from scratch. And it was a disaster! No where was this disaster more visible than in the airshow arena. Suddenly SAC heavy aircraft were doing low altitude stuff at airshows. B52s and KC135 doing low altitude yank and bank stuff. A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN! And that day it did. The B52 and the KC135 wear basically doing a “weave” maneuver. Maneuvering for a low altitude flyby in relatively close trail. As the 135 rolled in he got caught in low altitude turbulence and rolled right in! Face it, big airplanes that get upset need more than a few hundred feet of altitude to recover. You being a fighter type can get away with a lot more as you have more power, less weight, and a helluva lot more responsive aircraft. The 135 is not a snap rolling airplane. It is relatively slow and ponderous. Does NOT even have hydraulic ailerons and elevators. Uses spoilers to help it roll. Not exactly a hot shot “yank and bank” aircraft.

I will forever hold the CINCSAC who dreamed up the idea of such activities responsible for those deaths and others! He nearly single-handedly destroyed a command that had stood the test of time for years, and contributed to needless deaths by sheer arrogance and stupidity.

Other than that, I don’t have an opinion on the matter.

FWIW there was another crash at Fairchild. This time a B52 doing a series of low passes, flown by a pilot who was on his last flight. One that had a reputation for being a “maverick” and one that some crew members had expressed a reluctance to fly with. In the end he took innocent crew members to their death with himself by continuing to perform a series of energy losing maneuvers at low altitude until finally the B52 ran out of energy and crashed. And you know all about that energy thing! There have been some fighters lost for the same reason. Imagine a B52 doing it! Sad!

Again, other than that, I don’t have an opinion on this matter either!

Well so much for setting a record for the longest post ever on this web site!
 
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FWIW there was another crash at Fairchild. This time a B52 doing a series of low passes, flown by a pilot who was on his last flight. One that had a reputation for being a “maverick” and one that some crew members had expressed a reluctance to fly with. In the end he took innocent crew members to their death with himself by continuing to perform a series of energy losing maneuvers at low altitude until finally the B52 ran out of energy and crashed. And you know all about that energy thing! There have been some fighters lost for the same reason. Imagine a B52 doing it! Sad!

Again, other than that, I don’t have an opinion on this matter either!

Well so much for setting a record for the longest post ever on this web site!

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Yeah, that was old Bud Holland, a longtime BUFF pilot. Was doing the final airshow practice for the 92nd BMWs final airshow as a bomb wing prior to becoming an air refueling wing. Everyone knew Holland was dangerous, but no one did anything about it, in fact, they pushed him up to Chief of Wing Stan/Eval......not the right position for someone like that. Very high brass crew on that plane too........Holland in the left seat, the bomb squadron CO in the right, the bomb squadron DO downstairs as Radar Nav, and the Wing Vice (an O-6) in the Nav seat.....he was on his fini flight. You see from the video what happened. CO tried to punch at the last moment, which you can see his hatch leave the plane just prior to it impacting, but he was way outside the envelope.

Truly a tragedy and complete breakdown and failure of command, oversight, and the system as a whole.
 
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You ever work the Phoenix Air Guard -135A that had the midair with the Grumman Yankee in 1982 as it was decending (sic) out of the clouds on the TACAN 3L approach? Crashed into the Perryville prison just north of I-10.

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Learned a lot about that. Real good friend of mine, Sandy Mackelprang, another former Castle IP was an ART at that unit when it happened. (I was at the Grissom AFB Reserve unit by then) If memory serves me right the light airplane was kind of flying formation with another one and they were at the WRONG altitude to transition that area. KC135 was on a TACAN approach, came out of the clouds, and hit the light airplane just forward of the right horizontal stabilizer on the KC135.



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Yeah, the Grumman Yankee was flying west along I-10 with a Cessna Cardinal in about 2 mile trail (though the cardinal was meeting the appropriate cloud clearances for VFR). The two had met at the old PHX FSS at Sky Harbor, and since they were going the same way to California, decided to remain in communication with each other. PHX was a TRSA at the time, and the two had long since cancelled radar service. The 135 was advised of traffic by Luke tower, but they were still popeye. The Grummand was cruising just under the undercast and in and out of the bottoms. 135 came out of the clouds and "ran over" the Yankee. Yankee's impact severed the entire empennage off the 135, so the crew had no chance as they plowed into the prison. Real tragic.
 
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FWIW there was another crash at Fairchild. This time a B52 doing a series of low passes, flown by a pilot who was on his last flight. One that had a reputation for being a “maverick” and one that some crew members had expressed a reluctance to fly with. In the end he took innocent crew members to their death with himself by continuing to perform a series of energy losing maneuvers at low altitude until finally the B52 ran out of energy and crashed. And you know all about that energy thing! There have been some fighters lost for the same reason. Imagine a B52 doing it! Sad!

Again, other than that, I don’t have an opinion on this matter either!

Well so much for setting a record for the longest post ever on this web site!

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Yeah, that was old Bud Holland, a longtime BUFF pilot. Was doing the final airshow practice for the 92nd BMWs final airshow as a bomb wing prior to becoming an air refueling wing. Everyone knew Holland was dangerous, but no one did anything about it, in fact, they pushed him up to Chief of Wing Stan/Eval......not the right position for someone like that. Very high brass crew on that plane too........Holland in the left seat, the bomb squadron CO in the right, the bomb squadron DO downstairs as Radar Nav, and the Wing Vice (an O-6) in the Nav seat.....he was on his fini flight. You see from the video what happened. CO tried to punch at the last moment, which you can see his hatch leave the plane just prior to it impacting, but he was way outside the envelope.

Truly a tragedy and complete breakdown and failure of command, oversight, and the system as a whole.

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My uncle was a BUFF check pilot and tried twice to get his wings taken away. I really don't know much more about it, obviously he is bitter adn pissed off about it to this day
 
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