averettpilot
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That’s precisely what I tell WU pax who bring their house on the ramp and I have to ship bags.
Wheels Up to go public in a $2 billion SPAC deal
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Boris Badenov
This is no laughing matter.
But at least you get to stack the lav!
I may have, ok I almost certainly did tell the story about having the pax show up in Eagle next to my poor little Beechjet with THREE Tahoes all FULL of crap. A large part of the load (which of course we obviously couldn't take) was, and I'm not making this up, like bed linens and pillows, all of which smelled like a campfire. Evidently their vacation property had burned down, and we were meant to be evacuating all of their worldly possessions back to their primary residence. I had to hold myself back from suggesting that maybe they should have rented a mule-team or a bunch of water buffalo. What is this, the Fall of Saigon?
Ecl!pse
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The article mentions "a rapid recovery of private jet companies". This side of the industry faltered very little throughout this entire ordeal. There's actually been a lot of growth! Jet ownership has grown quite quickly. One reason is the pandemic and the recognition of the convenience of private jet travel. The other reason is the pending closure of a Trump era tax loophole.
This Tax Loophole Has More People Buying Private Planes
Ever since former President Donald Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, the demand for private jets has escalated. The most interested potential private jet owners are business people and...finance.yahoo.com
To be clear, this is not a tax "loophole" - it's written plain in the tax code that you can immediately depreciate the full value of the aircraft. It's intended to incentivize business, and individuals, to purchase/invest in new equipment from manufacturers.
This has always existed - prior to Trump's 2017 tax reform, you could deduct ~50% of the value of the aircraft immediately, and then the remaining ~50% over the next seven years ("MACRS" depreciation with Bonus Depreciation).
This is a large part of why US airlines have moved to (or are moving to) owning their aircraft, rather than leasing (Frontier being the lone exception).
ILS37R
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I interviewed with Wheels Up/GAMA some years back. Weirdest interview experience I ever had. I was way over the requirements for the position I applied for, but not two minutes in the interviewer looks at my resume and says, "You don't meet our requirements." We chatted for a few more minutes, but that was basically it.
Guy seemed genuinely frustrated, which I get. But at the same time, like, I woke up before dawn and put on a tie in my hotel room for this video conference (he was on the East Coast, I was on the West). And y'all are the ones who called me. All I did was take the call.
I still wonder how exactly the wires got crossed. But it would have been a mostly lateral move for me anyway, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
...anyway their crews I've encountered on the road seem content, if frequently a bit frazzled. Hope it works out well for everyone.
Guy seemed genuinely frustrated, which I get. But at the same time, like, I woke up before dawn and put on a tie in my hotel room for this video conference (he was on the East Coast, I was on the West). And y'all are the ones who called me. All I did was take the call.
I still wonder how exactly the wires got crossed. But it would have been a mostly lateral move for me anyway, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
...anyway their crews I've encountered on the road seem content, if frequently a bit frazzled. Hope it works out well for everyone.
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
SPACs seem to be all the rage right now.
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averettpilot
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Out of curiosity, did you have a cargo net for the lav to go across the lav entry? I basically only put one bag back there that I can secure with the belt. A cargo net would make filling the lav at least look legal.
averettpilot
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In what way were you over their requirements while also not meeting their requirements? Lol
fholbert
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That’s like saying an A380 is just a bus... oh, never mind.
deadstick
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So, y’all have to send 2 Beechjets to carry 1 350 load of pax-n-bags?
I had a guy show with 7 friends, bags, and one that was easily 8 ft long. I asked if he had a saw. He chose FedEx instead.
Autothrust Blue
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deadstick
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Beep
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If your airplane doesn’t have a cargo net stashed somewhere onboard for the lav door opening then your MX probably has it in a storage room somewhere.
Also, Id be surprised if it doesn’t have the net attachment points on the bulkhead.
It was always nice to give the passengers the option of shipping some of their stuff, or losing access to the lav.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
I read it that way, too. In context, I wonder if he meant he was way under the requirements.....
NovemberEcho
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i figured they meant over qualified and expected to lose him to the airlines or something soon after hiring
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Their minimums are ATP standards for the WheelsUp side, so maybe there's something to that. I dunno. Story didn't read right.
Oftentimes the minimums they actually want are much higher than those published. Casting a wide net helps build a working database that might be helpful when/if industry conditions change.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
IPO'S have been red hot, that is if you can get it at that price. Doordash and Airbnb in December hit the market and it was already 100-150% up, so there was no point in buying anymore...
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
ILS37R
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It was long enough ago that I don't remember the exact details, but it was along those lines. Published requirements were something like ATP mins + ATP written. I had my ATP, several thousand hours, and an unrelated type rating. Their internal requirements were different.
I wasn't broken up about it or anything. I didn't think I'd be competitive and was actually surprised when they called me for an interview. It was just bizarre to get out of the pool and into the interview stage and not even be a hirable candidate. Silly waste of everyone's time. Presumably an HR/hiring firm screw-up.
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