What's the next freight airplane?

jtrain609 said:
I'm not so sure that EMB-120's are plentiful for conversion. Amflight only operates a small handful of them, and they make up a very small part of the fleet. I mean there are only 7 EMB-120's compared to 44 Metro's and 57 Beech 99's in Amflight's fleet.
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Not trying to start rumors but straight from CVG they told me there are plenty of EMB's in the desert to take over the old DC9 routes from DHL and also looking at pulling a few out of the boneyard for Puerto Rico ops expansion.
 
jdlilfan said:
Not trying to start rumors but straight from CVG they told me there are plenty of EMB's in the desert to take over the old DC9 routes from DHL and also looking at pulling a few out of the boneyard for Puerto Rico ops expansion.
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If only they would let us fly the thing single pilot!
 
I wouldn't believe it unless it comes straight from Burbank, and even then I'd believe the exact opposite.

So if they tell you, "We're purchasing DC-6's so Hazlet can go back to being an FE," then that would probably translate into, "We're buying more EMB-120's."

But if Burbank tells you that you're getting more EMB-120's, it probably means they're dumping the six Navajo's that are left and getting zero additional EMB-120's.

You've gotta learn how to decipher the code man :)
 
I say the new Boeing BBJ freighter. A BBJ, then switched to a freighter. A company could handle passenger charters, or freight. :)

But I think the BBJ is too modern for the average freight dawg to understand:p
 
Regarding the scope clause for jet flying mentioned earlier for UPS, IFL operates falcons that fly into SDF every night. Does that count?
 
Turbo Mcfloat said:
Regarding the scope clause for jet flying mentioned earlier for UPS, IFL operates falcons that fly into SDF every night. Does that count?
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IIRC, it has to do with a payload or container count....I can't remember.

The contract is on the "other" site if you wanna research it.
 
Frankly, I wouldn't hold your breath on seeing new freighters. Ad hoc is dying on the vine, UPS/Fedex/DHL appear to be downsizing a lot of stuff to outsourced operators (good for Ameriflight, anyway). One of the results of the economic catastrophe we're just getting started on is bound to be fewer boxes full of Jessica Simpson CDs being rushed to retail outlets via jet.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Frankly, I wouldn't hold your breath on seeing new freighters. Ad hoc is dying on the vine, UPS/Fedex/DHL appear to be downsizing a lot of stuff to outsourced operators (good for Ameriflight, anyway). One of the results of the economic catastrophe we're just getting started on is bound to be fewer boxes full of Jessica Simpson CDs being rushed to retail outlets via jet.
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UPS has even downsized some of our flying to other operators. The underbidding is in full effect now. Sink or swim. Oh it's on like a chicken bone!
 
WacoFan said:
I would purchase the DC-3 Type Certificate and any tooling that is left. Slap some turbines on it (I just puked in my mouth a little), and you would have a pretty good machine. Proven, no known weaknesses, a money-maker to this day.
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I would say the only known weakness would be being able to find guys with enough tailwheel time to be insurable. Of course since an F/O is required that might not be too much of an issue since you could presumably start as an F/O with relatively low tailwheel time and then move to the left seat once you've got significant time in type.

I know when I was putting jumpers out of the Porter, the owner was looking to get rid of the plane because he had constant trouble finding guys with enough tailwheel time to be insurable. It worked out good for me because it meant job security. But before I came and after I left I know he had a heck of time finding enough guys with a pulse and 1000 hours of tailwheel time to fly the thing. Seems like he could always find one or the other, but rarely both. :D
 
Joe Gremlin said:
I would say the only known weakness would be being able to find guys with enough tailwheel time to be insurable. Of course since an F/O is required that might not be too much of an issue since you could presumably start as an F/O with relatively low tailwheel time and then move to the left seat once you've got significant time in type.
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That seems to be Four Star's MO. Though who know's just how much longer they'll be around. I've been told that one of their DC3's (well, C47 I guess) has a plaque in it for participation in the D-Day drops.
 
What ever happend to the company running Saab 340's for cargo?

Unless the route is long enough Jets just don't make sense due to the fuel involved.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
What ever happend to the company running Saab 340's for cargo?

Unless the route is long enough Jets just don't make sense due to the fuel involved.
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IBC Airways. Couple of guys here from the board works for them. I believe they had just added a few this past year to replace their aging metros.

Castle Air used to own 2 I think but I believe those were sold to IBC as well.
 
jdlilfan said:
IBC Airways. Couple of guys here from the board works for them. I believe they had just added a few this past year to replace their aging metros.

Castle Air used to own 2 I think but I believe those were sold to IBC as well.
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Castle was the one I was thinking of. Thanks
 
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