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mikecweb said:
Nope 10 year loan at 4.2%. I don't have a car payment. I know i can't own a house until i turn 32 which is when it'll be paid off. I never maid less than 35 a year including when i was a CFI so I never had a really bad year that put me in a hole. It sucks but I don't cry poor or eat Ramen like Jhugz. Grant it I don't goto Martini bars but I manage to enjoy life.
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Well, I guess that's not too bad then. I just did the calculations, and (I know it's none of my business), but assuming you borrowed $100,000, at 4.2% for 10 years, your monthly payments would be roughly $1,021.98 a month! :panic:
 
typhoonpilot said:
I disagree with this sentiment. If you are going to commit to something in life, commit 100%. You'll hear the above a lot, but it just doesn't make sense. While you don't need a degree in aviation to be succsessful, you can gain a lot from it. Not just theory, but contacts with people who are in aviation as well.


Typhoonpilot
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I completely disagree.

Don't commit to anything in your life 100% but your family With everything else, diversify as much as you possibly can. I can't imagine ONLY focusing on my life on flying. I'm not just a pilot, I'm also a musician, a philosopher, a very politically savy citizen, a mountain biker, a drummer, a husband, a son and a skier.


All those things together make me who I am. If I was to solely focus my life on airplanes throughout college, and now while I'm on furlough I'd probably hang myself.
 
jtrain609 said:
I completely disagree.

Don't commit to anything in your life 100% but your family With everything else, diversify as much as you possibly can. I can't imagine ONLY focusing on my life on flying. I'm not just a pilot, I'm also a musician, a philosopher, a very politically savy citizen, a mountain biker, a drummer, a husband, a son and a skier.
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That's awesome and I'm sure your tombstone will be three paragraphs long but how does any of that make you money?
 
jtrain609 said:
I completely disagree.

Don't commit to anything in your life 100% but your family With everything else, diversify as much as you possibly can. I can't imagine ONLY focusing on my life on flying. I'm not just a pilot, I'm also a musician, a philosopher, a very politically savy citizen, a mountain biker, a drummer, a husband, a son and a skier.


All those things together make me who I am. If I was to solely focus my life on airplanes throughout college, and now while I'm on furlough I'd probably hang myself.
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I, myself, prefer to do one thing really well then a bunch of stuff half assed.
 
mattp1803 said:
Well, I guess that's not too bad then. I just did the calculations, and (I know it's none of my business), but assuming you borrowed $100,000, at 4.2% for 10 years, your monthly payments would be roughly $1,021.98 a month! :panic:
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Because I know all of Mikecwebs business, I can tell you that's only about 15% (if that) of Mikecwebs income before taxes . :D
 
I'd say major in what you're interested in. Just be mindful the scope in which your degree will help you within and outside of your desired career interest. I say that because I know a lot of people who have various degrees who cannot find a job. Ands thats from degrees in business to degrees in computer science. Whats a degree worth if it can't get you a job?
 
We've had this conversation quite a few times. I disagree with mini and jtrain. I think an undergrad degree checks a box and that is all. If you think you are getting a leg up by having an aviation degree you are fooling yourself. BUT, my aviation degree got me through college. I'm not into any of that liberal arts crap and i'm too stupid to be an engineer so I got a degree in something I enjoyed. If your job is looking for a specific degree it is most likely going to look for a masters or higher.
 
mikecweb said:
We've had this conversation quite a few times. I disagree with mini and jtrain. I think an undergrad degree checks a box and that is all. If you think you are getting a leg up by having an aviation degree you are fooling yourself. BUT, my aviation degree got me through college. I'm not into any of that liberal arts crap and i'm too stupid to be an engineer so I got a degree in something I enjoyed. If your job is looking for a specific degree it is most likely going to look for a masters or higher.
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Agreed.

I think my degree, both as just a "check the box" qualifier, and as an "I learned things I can use later in life," has served me well. Since getting the degree I've been an Army Officer, a professional pilot, and a salesman. Since I was never a doctor, a lawyer, a nurse, an engineer, a biologist, etc, it really hasn't mattered what my degree was in.

In my very humble opinion, unless you are going into a field that requires a specific degree, any will do. And in that case, the thinking, reading, writing, and analyzing is what you have to gain most from your degree.
 
mikecweb said:
We've had this conversation quite a few times. I disagree with mini and jtrain. I think an undergrad degree checks a box and that is all. If you think you are getting a leg up by having an aviation degree you are fooling yourself. BUT, my aviation degree got me through college. I'm not into any of that liberal arts crap and i'm too stupid to be an engineer so I got a degree in something I enjoyed. If your job is looking for a specific degree it is most likely going to look for a masters or higher.
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Agreed!

That's why I don't buy the "Get a degree in something other than aviation just in case you need a plan B" argument.

If you get your medical taken away 10 years after you get an engineering degree that you haven't utilized, I don't think you will be able to waltz into Lockheed Martin and land an engineering job. They are going to hire someone fresh out of college!

Lets face it, I would bet most people who get their medical pulled after 20 years of flying,are probably instructing in a box.
 
ryanmickG said:
Agreed!

That's why I don't buy the "Get a degree in something other than aviation just in case you need a plan B" argument.

If you get your medical taken away 10 years after you get an engineering degree that you haven't utilized, I don't think you will be able to waltz into Lockheed Martin and land an engineering job. They are going to hire someone fresh out of college!

Lets face it, I would bet most people who get their medical pulled after 20 years of flying,are probably instructing in a box.
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For some reason I never thought of it that way, and that is probably the honest truth!

I got a degree in something non-aviation related, because of advice from pilots in the community telling me to do so, so you can "fall back on it" just in case. And I'm glad I did, because I am using my degree currently in something other than aviation.
 
BajtheJino said:
I, myself, prefer to do one thing really well then a bunch of stuff half assed.
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This addresses my point. Airline Pilot interviewers are looking for applicants that can do "a bunch of stuff" really well. They don't want someone who does just "one thing really well" or "a bunch of stuff half-assed." When pee-pee turns to ca-ca you gotta do MANY things perfect. Been there. Diversify.
 
ryanmickG said:
Agreed!

That's why I don't buy the "Get a degree in something other than aviation just in case you need a plan B" argument.

If you get your medical taken away 10 years after you get an engineering degree that you haven't utilized, I don't think you will be able to waltz into Lockheed Martin and land an engineering job. They are going to hire someone fresh out of college!
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That's not true, your degree lasts forever and can be applied till the day you retire, even by your example. Especially Engineering, Biology, Chemistry, and Business type degrees. Aviation, is one of the most useless.
 
Well, having the degree leaves a foundation on which to build on if aviation doesn't work out.

You may not have worked in engineering for 15 years, but with the certification, I'm sure you could certainly get a job as a entry-level designer, crank out that EIT and get your PE in 24 to 36 months.

If I lost my medical, whoo, I'm probably looking at at least DeVry to get some marketable non-aviation skills! :)
 
Being from Missouri, one option I'd check is College of the Ozarks. I applied and got accepted back in 2000. I ended up going to Jacksonville University, couldn't stay away from the beach...

Here's part of an article from AOPA Flight Training.

"One of the most unusual collegiate flight programs is based at a small school in the hills of Missouri just outside Branson. The College of the Ozarks is home to some 65 pilots-in-training. As incredible as it sounds, at College of the Ozarks it is possible to earn a four-year degree and all certificates and ratings up to CFI for less than $20,000. How? The college bills itself as "Hard Work U."

The concept is simple. Rather than hiring outside workers to staff the school, students serve as janitors, landscapers, cafeteria servers, and more. Flight students start out in character-building positions such as those. As they progress, they can be assigned such jobs as line service technicians, customer service specialists, or rental car desk clerks at a full-service FBO that the college owns and operates. Thus, students can work off a good portion of their education expenses - including flight training costs - and gain experience for their resumes."
 
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