What Keeps you at a 135?

mikecweb said:
I think it also has to do with being ridiculously easier to get hired at a 91/135 and then those have to pump their ego saying they can't take a paycut to goto a major (that they can't get a call from).
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I see this very often.

It's very similar to the regional crowd that says "I get weekends off and holidays!"

That's great, but American didn't renew their agreement, your teenagers don't like you anyway and you're Googling "Open Bars Christmas" at 1430 on 12/25.

Go see the world. It's big and beautiful.
 
Derg said:
You're a very lucky man then! :)

All the stuff I want to do requires copious amounts of it!
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There's a lot of truth to that! Money isn't everything, but having a nice place to live and not worrying if your car will make it to work or buying burgers for some friends will break the food budget for the month is something!
 
I guess mine doesn't.

I've seen the world. It's all the same.

I'd rather enjoy my time on the road and have the time to enjoy time at home as well.

Of course, my idea of a vacation is spending 3 weeks outside building a deck.
 
Roger Roger said:
There's a lot of truth to that! Money isn't everything, but having a nice place to live and not worrying if your car will make it to work or buying burgers for some friends will break the food budget for the month is something!
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It's all perspective.

Like I'm going to make a sandwich for lunch, but I need tomatoes and a roll. I'm going to get in my car ($$$), drive from my home to Bashas (gas, maintenance, mileage depreciation $$$), on a road (my HOA fees maintain the road in the neighborhood and it's a city road on the main street $$$), but the tomato and sub roll ($$$) come back to the house ($$$) and use the ham ($$$), cheese ($$$), mayonnaise (I don't know who ever surmised that black folks don't like mayo $$$), deli mustard ($$$), lettuce ($$$), pickle ($$$) a little greek olive oil ($$$), some balsamic vinegar ($$$) and that's all stored in the refrigerator I bought last year ($$$).
 
Derg said:
It's all perspective.

Like I'm going to make a sandwich for lunch, but I need tomatoes and a roll. I'm going to get in my car ($$$), drive from my home to Bashas (gas, maintenance, mileage depreciation $$$), on a road (my HOA fees maintain the road in the neighborhood and it's a city road on the main street $$$), but the tomato and sub roll ($$$) come back to the house ($$$) and use the ham ($$$), cheese ($$$), mayonnaise (I don't know who ever surmised that black folks don't like mayo $$$), deli mustard ($$$), lettuce ($$$), pickle ($$$) a little greek olive oil ($$$), some balsamic vinegar ($$$) and that's all stored in the refrigerator I bought last year ($$$).
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And don't forget the greatest expense.

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Derg said:
It's all perspective.

Like I'm going to make a sandwich for lunch, but I need tomatoes and a roll. I'm going to get in my car ($$$), drive from my home to Bashas (gas, maintenance, mileage depreciation $$$), on a road (my HOA fees maintain the road in the neighborhood and it's a city road on the main street $$$), but the tomato and sub roll ($$$) come back to the house ($$$) and use the ham ($$$), cheese ($$$), mayonnaise (I don't know who ever surmised that black folks don't like mayo $$$), deli mustard ($$$), lettuce ($$$), pickle ($$$) a little greek olive oil ($$$), some balsamic vinegar ($$$) and that's all stored in the refrigerator I bought last year ($$$).
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Derg said:
It's all perspective.

Like I'm going to make a sandwich for lunch, but I need tomatoes and a roll. I'm going to get in my car ($$$), drive from my home to Bashas (gas, maintenance, mileage depreciation $$$), on a road (my HOA fees maintain the road in the neighborhood and it's a city road on the main street $$$), but the tomato and sub roll ($$$) come back to the house ($$$) and use the ham ($$$), cheese ($$$), mayonnaise (I don't know who ever surmised that black folks don't like mayo $$$), deli mustard ($$$), lettuce ($$$), pickle ($$$) a little greek olive oil ($$$), some balsamic vinegar ($$$) and that's all stored in the refrigerator I bought last year ($$$).
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Exactly my point, I think. Having money makes it a lot easier to do the things you want to do and not have to worry about the things you don't want to do.
 
mojo6911 said:
@Inverted why are you still at a 135/91k? You're preaching the benefits of the 121 regional route, so why haven't you gone that way?
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I am preaching the benefits of 121. If I had gone to a regional I would have tried to stay as long as I could, now that I am at NetJets, I don't plan on leaving unless it is for a legacy/major/LCC.

There are benefits to 135, and to some those benefits outweigh the earning potential at a career airline job. Lots of guys at NetJets love living in uninhabited parts of the world for some reason, and commuting would be impossible for them.
 
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Dugie8 said:
Money isn't everything to everyone.
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You're right, and those are the ones that work till 75 and die in the Hasbrook Hilton because they didn't plan their life accordingly.

It isn't so much that money is the only factor, it more has to do with the fact that you will safe more for retirement and make more money per year at the top end of the pay scale at a legacy over 91/135. Some people are more concerned about planning for their future than others.
 
Lemme reframe. @Dugie8, you know when Sigmund Freud said something about when you're yelling at someone, you're yelling at yourself or, well, your mother?

If I was "rough", I apologize, it was something interpersonal and you didn't deserve to be in my blast radius.

Yes, people, I'm saying "Sorry" on the internet :)

Just that 100% of the people in my world that say money isn't everything have asked me... for money... in the last year. And if I didn't hustle, I wouldn't have money for them to give me the "Hey man, I'm kinda short this month" text.

So it's really more about me than anything else. Sorry bro.
 
Not saying you're doing this @Dugue8 but I hear it too often that it's not about the money. I can't help but look at some of the low paying segments of our industry. If nobody accepted the term "money isn't everything" then maybe some of the low paying companies wouldn't exist or wouldn't be paying less than standard.

You're right money isn't literally everything in terms of being a 1 dimensional factor in a career, but money is everything as in all encompassing. Can't do anything without it, can't live without it, cannot retire without it, cannot survive without it.

Almost everyone that I have worked with, or come across in my careee that has said money doesn't matter, have been abused and poorly paid by the companies they worked for.
 
I don't think 121 would allow me to play as much golf as I want. However, my current gig will not last forever so I'm stashing as much cash and investing as much as I can so that when and if I end up 121 I can afford the dreaded pay cut.

It's been said as well that getting a 121 job requires a lot of effort for not a lot of reward in the short term, and I hate interviews, especially what 121 interviews (regional or otherwise) sound like.

In the meantime I will ride this gig for as long as I can.
 
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