What is with all the doom and gloom
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cmhumphr
Well-Known Member
Still not what an Embraer 175/190 First Officer should be making..
Gonzo
Well-Known Member
Maybe, my understanding is union is going to fight the pay raise. Most pilots see it for what it is and don't like it.
scooter2525
Very well Member
30k a year? I MIGHT be able to support my family on that.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Call me short-sighted, but why exactly?
HVYMETALDRVR
Well-Known Member
True for sure, although that was 4 years ago so you have to account for whatever inflation was though, so say in 2008 dollars, were probably at about $115 per barrel... so it does soften things a little bit.
block30
Well-Known Member
I believe the rationale (Cliff notes version) is that Republic keeps new FOs coming in the door, instead of having an *ahem* pilot shortage. If there is a (clears throat) pilot shortage- the ball is the union/pilot's court. So management is keeping new blood coming in, thus relatively weaking pilots and therefore strengthening their position. (That is my understanding, please jump in and correct me as necessary.)
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Turning them down is leverage to finish the contract for real, and finally sign something after way too many years
embraer07
Well-Known Member
I agree..but good God, its a step in the right direction.
I understand this industry has been a roller coaster since deregulation...but can we ease back a little on all the pessimism???
A number of unprecedented events are coming together in the next few years which will reshape the airline industry in more ways than we can imagine. Lets not all fly off the handle bars just quite yet...
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Gotcha, didn't realize they'd been in negotiations for so long.
Pilots spend a lot of time in the cockpit.
Many pilots will not drop a deuce on the airplane.
The combination of lack of toilets and unwillingness to drop a deuce in between legs tends to mean that many pilots are constipated.
Constipation makes us grumpy.
My logic is flawless.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I'm not getting any younger. Would you tell them to hurry the heck up??!
Sorry. I'm a little constipated. I don't mean to take it out on you.
That right there is the greatest thing I've heard all day. And so freaking true. That pretty much sums it all up.
Trip7
Well-Known Member
This is a historic event. This signals the beginning of the end of extremely low 1st year pay. All other airlines will eventually match. The floodgates are about to open. Our time has come.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Nick
Well-Known Member
Sounds like Bryan Bedford trying to circumvent a union again, by not offering the union a chance to negotiate how the increased payroll will be distributed among seats and longevity.
Increasing first year pay by $7 an hour is a good start but not if this is how they are going to try to go about doing it.
Expressjet was thinking about doing something like this back in 2007/2008 but the economy took care of the issue real fast.
Increasing first year pay by $7 an hour is a good start but not if this is how they are going to try to go about doing it.
Expressjet was thinking about doing something like this back in 2007/2008 but the economy took care of the issue real fast.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Yeah, wow. Oldest trick in the book. Dollars to donuts the money winds up coming off the top of the seniority list.
Trip7
Well-Known Member
How far we have come
Not too long ago, pilots with thousands of hours of experience were paying a $50 application fee just to apply to regionals like Mesa. If you were lucky enough to be hired at the regional, then you had to find your own place to stay for 6 weeks of training. All for the prestigious starting pay of $18/hr. How things have changed. Now Republic not only raised their starting pay, but raised to to be the highest in regional airline industry.
Still a while to to go for regional pay, but this is a step in the right direction, and a big one too.
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Not too long ago, pilots with thousands of hours of experience were paying a $50 application fee just to apply to regionals like Mesa. If you were lucky enough to be hired at the regional, then you had to find your own place to stay for 6 weeks of training. All for the prestigious starting pay of $18/hr. How things have changed. Now Republic not only raised their starting pay, but raised to to be the highest in regional airline industry.
Still a while to to go for regional pay, but this is a step in the right direction, and a big one too.
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