What insulates CHQ/Republic From Cuts?
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meyers9163
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I'll admit the 1st paragraph of my 1st post was just to put it out there. However the 2nd part is part of the reply was in response to the thread and thus on topic. However one decided to resort to a name calling and thus showing that perhaps the 1st paragraph is dead on and accurate about the lower 50% of the RAH guys. (vast majority of them I should say)
surreal1221
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Awe let's just be kids about it and report the thread to the mods so we can close it up and move on. . .
You know, people's feelings and such being hurt, and emotions as high as they are.
You know, people's feelings and such being hurt, and emotions as high as they are.
meyers9163
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Already done.... Too bad we cant have an accurate convo about this though. I really put accurate information out there. Someone got upset about the bottom half comment and that was purely a comment and observation. Also there's a comair guy on here who had a CHQ guy tell him something very similiar and we were discussing that. Regardless its a different company. Just as Skywest is not what it use to be. However I would say the Skywest guys are willing to discuss and talk about the sour things there. However to each there own. Fact of the matter is the thread was about CHQ/RAH being immune from all this. I posted why so far but also the fact it could change tomorrow. As to any regional out there. If any fold it'd be a very sad day. Thus none of us wish to see that. Yet none of us wish to see with all the mainline announcements regionals gaining flying and thus boasting about it if indeed they get it. Also that means many more out of jobs and more regional flying and thus jobs taken away from mainline. Sad times to come perhaps.
meyers9163
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Sweeeet , im in the cool people group!
This you are..... And not saying you have to say one way or another but things have indeed changed at RAH have they not? Polar you were there, would you not say things have changed as they have everywhere. Yet I know you both can discuss the pros and cons and not take it to name calling. Thus the professional part that you both bring and one brought to RAH (as he's moved on).
actually, to be accurate
...you didn't... you need to use this =>
Just an FYI
SoCalAprch
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You are something else...
SoCalAprch
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Like what how the bottom of our seniority list sucks? Good info there Meyers, everyone discuss...
meyers9163
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No the accurate information would be that RAH nor anyone is immune. Thus the thread topic. I also put out there that UAL (which is one of your major providers) does indeed still have scope and thus I did not forsee it being an automatic RAH gift for more flying. Thus they annoucned the express carriers would increase in flying however the fact of the matter is they are paying the fuel cost and if given the option to save money perhaps SKW flying a 700 would get that flying due to the 700 indeed being cheaper then the "heavier" EMB170/175. In addition placed before was the fact that until the "express" was taken off after the name none of the flying done by any, and let me stress it again ANY, regional is safe. In addition I stated RAH is a solid place now, but todays great place can be tomorrows worse. I would stress to re read my post. Not all of it was bad. Heck most of it was not bad at all about RAH. Mostly giving props about how things are going great. Lastly I did caution that BB did indeed leave Mesaba is a bad situation and that I would not trust ANY ceo as far as I could throw them. Would anyone here let to say BB did not leave Mesaba in a bad spot?
Lastly there has been in the industry in general this mesuring contest. None of the regionals are better then anyone by a huge amount that we should be saying, "my place is better." However I would say I have two great friends who have been hired at RAH lately and they themselves would admit there's a lot of this "macho FO" thing going on at RAH lately. However it could be a low time issue in which is happening at every airline. Keep in mind as you forgotten I did have offers from both RAH/PSA and took PSA. Therefore I am around RAH a lot. THus perhaps other places are this way as well. But when you only have 500 pilots for the most part my company is a small small place and very modest (senior) folks. Thus perhaps other places are having a "macho" act as well. However I do not see the SKW/Xjet/ASA/Comair guys. However those who I've encourtered from those companies have been great. And also those from RAH are great for the most part. Yet I am around the younger crowd thus I see it more in that crowd. And when even over in CMH with my buddies there's an extreme cockiness I've noticed. Its merely all I was stating. The older guys at RAH would have never been that way. But that again as I stress could be a changing of guard and thus a changing of time.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
WTF?
I go to roll a kayak for a couple of hours and I come back to find a bunch of little boys comparing wee wees.
Ya'll need to grow up.
To get this thread back on topic...
I think RepuShuttaque is in better shape then some of the other regionals because they are rather diversified. However, their growth plan (from my understanding) is to get bigger airplanes.
As of now, the only place they can do that is with Airways, and even that is limited to 86 seats. On top of that, as soon as USAPA stops trying to sue everybody who doesn't like them, there are pretty good rumors they are going to try to recapture some scope back down to 70 seats. You can be damn sure they'll do that if Airways starts making cuts like everybody else is. A lot of those guys already have time in the 170 (from either J4J deals or at MidTitanic) so they know it's a good airplane. So the growth potential for 175s at Airways *may* be limited. As far as the 145s flown by CHQ... I think they are mostly gone now, and will be some of the first casualties of more 50 seater reductions.
I don't know how the DAL system is going, but I'm pretty sure they aren't going to get scope expanded there at all. So more 170s, or 175s with a whole bunch of first class seats.
United's express system is a mess but I doubt the pilots there will give up much in the way of scope (especially with them parking 100 airframes now).
And I don't see RAH breaking into the CAL system beyond the soon to be parked CRJs as CAL shows now sign of giving up scope (and god forbid they do, SkyWest would be all over that like a horny dog on a dudes leg).
So, I don't think they face much in the way of cuts, but RAH better be able to run a successful airline with 70 seats and not count on growth (for another airline anyway) past that.
Just my .02 though.
I go to roll a kayak for a couple of hours and I come back to find a bunch of little boys comparing wee wees.
Ya'll need to grow up.
To get this thread back on topic...
I think RepuShuttaque is in better shape then some of the other regionals because they are rather diversified. However, their growth plan (from my understanding) is to get bigger airplanes.
As of now, the only place they can do that is with Airways, and even that is limited to 86 seats. On top of that, as soon as USAPA stops trying to sue everybody who doesn't like them, there are pretty good rumors they are going to try to recapture some scope back down to 70 seats. You can be damn sure they'll do that if Airways starts making cuts like everybody else is. A lot of those guys already have time in the 170 (from either J4J deals or at MidTitanic) so they know it's a good airplane. So the growth potential for 175s at Airways *may* be limited. As far as the 145s flown by CHQ... I think they are mostly gone now, and will be some of the first casualties of more 50 seater reductions.
I don't know how the DAL system is going, but I'm pretty sure they aren't going to get scope expanded there at all. So more 170s, or 175s with a whole bunch of first class seats.
United's express system is a mess but I doubt the pilots there will give up much in the way of scope (especially with them parking 100 airframes now).
And I don't see RAH breaking into the CAL system beyond the soon to be parked CRJs as CAL shows now sign of giving up scope (and god forbid they do, SkyWest would be all over that like a horny dog on a dudes leg).
So, I don't think they face much in the way of cuts, but RAH better be able to run a successful airline with 70 seats and not count on growth (for another airline anyway) past that.
Just my .02 though.
meyers9163
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actually, to be accurateto report a post. sending a PM isn't reporting a post because we tend to forget about it if it's in the PM system.
Just an FYI
Yeah that button. I always looked but never pushed... I hear its bad times to get finger happy.
meyers9163
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ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
Wow. Go to work...come home...mow the lawn and 3 pages? I'm sorry I mentioned Bedford's religious newsletters as that wasn't the focus of my post. (I am former CHQ but did not work there under Bedford's watch).
I was really just trying to get some insight into why we didn't seem to see the "pain at the pump" with RAH that we are seeing with other carriers in order to make a short-term investment gambl...er decision.
I was really just trying to get some insight into why we didn't seem to see the "pain at the pump" with RAH that we are seeing with other carriers in order to make a short-term investment gambl...er decision.
meyers9163
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I was really just trying to get some insight into why we didn't seem to see the "pain at the pump" with RAH that we are seeing with other carriers in order to make a short-term investment gambl...er decision.
They dont pay for fuel? (again where's that darn sarcasm)
Beechlover
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WOW! Wore my self out trying to read all this. Well for what it's worth as a new CHQ FO on the CRJ no less, the writing's on the wall. I greatly enjoy where I work so my plans are (at this moment) to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If I'm furloughed, or worse, just let go prior to completing probation, then I'll deal with it. Hope to have "Plan B" in sight soon.
No one with a flying job is insulated from $130+ oil.., no one..,
I personally take comfort in BB's use of christian references in his company communications, for my own personal reasons, but thats just me.
P.S. I bring my camera on every trip just to prove I was here! No really..,
How ever this goes, I wouldn't have changed a thing, it's all about no regrets and living the dream! I consider myself blessed, everything that follows from this point on is simply icing on the cake. Best of luck to us all.
No one with a flying job is insulated from $130+ oil.., no one..,
I personally take comfort in BB's use of christian references in his company communications, for my own personal reasons, but thats just me.
P.S. I bring my camera on every trip just to prove I was here! No really..,
How ever this goes, I wouldn't have changed a thing, it's all about no regrets and living the dream! I consider myself blessed, everything that follows from this point on is simply icing on the cake. Best of luck to us all.
SIUAv8r
RJ Commander
RP/S5/RW are not immune to anything. The company is offering time off without pay for july. We have 17 170's sitting around with no home, XJet just extended their contract with CAL, which could lead us to losing that contract (all CRJ's gone by 2010 anyways). Who knows whats going to happen. Yes its true we don't pay for gas. I can assure you every CA I fly with on the 145 (not very fuel efficient, but what 50 seater is?) is very fuel conscious, and we routinely save at least 200-500 lbs under our planned burn (pending no weather or holds). Tomorrow we might have to pay for that gas, and I'm sure it would dig into our bottom line.
As for the bottom half of the seniority list comment, every airline has their little snot nosed F/O's who think they're God's gift, so it's not just us. I think that comment was unwarranted.
In the mean time, I'm gonna show up to work and do my job the best I can, save some gas, and be nice to everybody. You never know who will be on the other side of the interview table one day.
As for the bottom half of the seniority list comment, every airline has their little snot nosed F/O's who think they're God's gift, so it's not just us. I think that comment was unwarranted.
In the mean time, I'm gonna show up to work and do my job the best I can, save some gas, and be nice to everybody. You never know who will be on the other side of the interview table one day.
EDUC8-or
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Per our conversation the other night this is why I spend less and less time here than I used to. It's going downhill fast.
I need to just stick to the LAV any more.
/hijack