hey guys. i may be able to give a little insight on wmu's aviation program. i too was a flight science major there like bluestreak but switched and graduated with a degree in aviation mangement last april. currently i'm in florida doing my flight training. i also have had many friends who went through the program. unfortunatley most of them have not had good things to say abut the program. as bluestreak said aircraft availability is a problem. (nice planes though). most are '97's or newer. secondly tom grossman the cheif pilot is an •. another problem (so i've heard) is that they string you along by telling you your not ready for the checkride when if fact you are. i can't speak for this from personal experience as i have never flown there. i do still have one buddy going through the program working on his commercial and he is not happy to say the least for the reason i have just mentioned. plus you get only enough multi-time to get your rating. many programs (not colligiate) (spelling?) allow you do a multi add-on after your ppl so you can log pic during the other phases of your flight training for roughly the same price of flying a new 172. also western has the IPTC which is the "international pilot training center." british airways, airlingus, and emirates air send pilots there to train. the reason this is a problem is because 1. they are using western's aircfraft. and 2. western puts more emphasis on keeping those students happy than they do their domestic students. some of this information may be a little out of date as it has been about a year since i've been around k-zoo. that was the situation when i was there. they did not have the "accelerated program" when is was there. i guess you can do the program if you already have a degree. BUT, compared to the programs down here, this programs not very accelerated. and you still don't get any multi-time. any way that's my .02 cents. hope this helps.