Vegas FBOs

BarbieDreamPilot said:
When deployed within the parameters outlined, CAPS survivability rate is 100%. But if you can afford the 421 then go for it. The second engine is going to eat away some cabbage though.
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What if you're below 1000'? I just don't understand people who buy expensive singles. If all you can afford is a single then that's one thing. But if you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a plane with one engine it just blows my mind. If that engine quits at night, in IMC or down low you're more than likely going to die.
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
What if you're below 1000'? I just don't understand people who buy expensive singles. If all you can afford is a single then that's one thing. But if you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a plane with one engine it just blows my mind. If that engine quits at night, in IMC or down low you're more than likely going to die.
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Yep. This conversation comes up on the Mooney forum every now and then. It seems that people like Dick Collins have convinced these morons that light twins are death traps. Fine with me. It's driven prices way down so I can snatch one up on the cheap. :)
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Yep. This conversation comes up on the Mooney forum every now and then. It seems that people like Dick Collins have convinced these morons that light twins are death traps. Fine with me. It's driven prices way down so I can snatch one up on the cheap. :)
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Dick Collins is such an idiot. You'd be astonished how cheap you can get a nice, low-time 55 Baron. Under 100k for a good one.

Worst case scenario in a light twin if you lose one is to pull the other engine back too then you're in the same scenario as a single. But 99% of the time you feather it and land while not dying or maiming yourself and your passengers.
 
SrFnFly227 said:
They charge us $1000 just to show up to the ramp. We went in twice in the same day once and got charged both times. When we asked about it, they told us that "you don't have the status for us to waive it." I hate that place. Oddly though, the fuel is the same price as our home field once we use the Colt pricing.



Martin is the wrong direction. They live in Annapolis. We talk them in to Easton occasionally, but the drive is about 15 minutes longer and they have to cross the bay bridge. Traffic can suck at the wrong time of year.
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That sucks. Being right on 97 is hard to beat if you're headed to Annapolis.
 
learhawkerbe400 said:
What if you're below 1000'? I just don't understand people who buy expensive singles. If all you can afford is a single then that's one thing. But if you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a plane with one engine it just blows my mind. If that engine quits at night, in IMC or down low you're more than likely going to die.
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In a 172 you might be right. But in a Cirrus the parachute can deploy in as little as 300'. With CAPS the fatality rate you quote is absolutely not true - in all those scenarios within the limits the survivability rate is 100%. The training teaches pilots to deploy it in loss of control situations. People have the same hesitance about caps now that fighter pilots had about ejection seats. People buy them because they're more fuel efficient, comfortable, and advanced than 60 year old multiengine designs that cruise slower or burn more fuel, have higher mx costs.
 
I'd rather have a parachute than no parachute on a single. I'll give you that. But the chute is not the be-all and end-all that you espouse. Over mountains, water or any other inhospitable terrain you're still f'ed. I've read more than one account where the chute got them on the ground in the mountains and they died because they got dragged across the ground in high winds and couldn't get out.

People buy them mainly because they listen to people like you who have convinced them that a parachute is better than quality training and another engine.
 
On the subject of multi's,

I'd go with a nice Chieftan with the Panther conversion. It is very docile, gives you good speed, and has lots of space.

I'd love to have a skymaster with the Riley Rocket conversion also! I flew the regular skymaster for about 60hrs and it wasn't a bad ride.

http://therocket2.com/specs.htm
 
If you decide to stop in the ICT area for gas instead of Oklahoma or Salina let me know (stearman is ~4.40 self serve). I'd be happy to give you a plant tour where some planes are made! Sounds like a fun trip.
 
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