Vaccine mandates info

[Scarebus]

I'm not finding any of those "dozens of studies", can you provide some links please?

20 things to know about COVID-19 vaccines for kids under 12

Kids 5-11 are now eligible for Pfizer’s COVID vaccine. Pediatric experts share answers to parents’ questions as they consider vaccinating their child.

healthblog.uofmhealth.org

11 things to know about COVID vaccines and kids’ hearts

Reports of heart inflammation in children and teens after receiving mRNA COVID vaccines have fueled further questions about vaccine safety. A pediatric cardiologist answers common questions about the risks of COVID vaccines versus COVID-19 infection.

healthblog.uofmhealth.org

The science must be different across Europe where many countries advise against the clot shot for healthy kids. Interesting…

 

[GypsyPilot]

The science must be different across Europe where many countries advise against the clot shot for healthy kids. Interesting…

Show your work.

 

[Wardogg]

Show your work.

UK panel does not recommend COVID vaccines for healthy 12- to 15-year-olds

Britain's vaccine advisers said they were not recommending the vaccination of all 12- to 15-year-olds against COVID-19, preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.

www.reuters.com

Anger at plans to roll back Covid vaccines to under-11s in England

Children aged 5-11 will no longer be offered Covid jabs, except those in clinical risk groups, UKHSA confirms

www.theguardian.com

Scientists not backing Covid jabs for 12 to 15-year-olds

But 200,000 extra children with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses.

www.bbc.com

Sweden decides against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11

Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

www.reuters.com

 

[I Like IKE]

UK panel does not recommend COVID vaccines for healthy 12- to 15-year-olds

Britain's vaccine advisers said they were not recommending the vaccination of all 12- to 15-year-olds against COVID-19, preferring a precautionary approach in healthy children due to a rare side effect of heart inflammation.

www.reuters.com

Anger at plans to roll back Covid vaccines to under-11s in England

Children aged 5-11 will no longer be offered Covid jabs, except those in clinical risk groups, UKHSA confirms

www.theguardian.com

Scientists not backing Covid jabs for 12 to 15-year-olds

But 200,000 extra children with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses.

www.bbc.com

Sweden decides against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11

Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

www.reuters.com

Did you read the articles or just find headlines that seemed to agree with you? None of these say anything about the vaccines being dangerous, and they include quotes from experts saying that they would still be beneficial to children. Research by headline is not research.

 

[Wardogg]

Did you read the articles....

Did you? What you infer from them is on you.

 

[I Like IKE]

Did you? What you infer from them is on you.

Yes, I did. The first one is a year old, which makes it pretty obsolete when we're talking about a new virus that we continue to learn more about. The recent ones simply state that they are no longer recommending them for young children because their risk of serious disease without them is very low. But even that is disputed by other experts who say any risk to young children is too high a risk. No where in any of these articles do the experts say that they are dangerous or that they justify the infantile and ignorant use of the term "clot shot."

 

[Scarebus]

The recent ones simply state that they are no longer recommending them for young children because their risk of serious disease without them is very low.

So the risk/reward ratio does not justify giving healthy kids the clot shot. That’s exactly the entire point lol

 

[I Like IKE]

So the risk/reward ratio does not justify giving healthy kids the clot shot. That’s exactly the entire point lol

It's really not though. There was no talk of Risk/Reward. The only risk discussed was the risk of infection being low in small children that there is no need for the vaccine. No where in those articles was there a claim that the shot is risky. But as you clearly have issues with reading comprehension, I'll bow out. Claim victory if it makes you feel cool.

 

[who'swho]

The science must be different across Europe where many countries advise against the clot shot for healthy kids. Interesting…

I don't think Europe recommends horse dewormer either. Just a guess.

 

[Flyingclamsforever]

Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults - PubMed

The excess risk of serious adverse events found in our study points to the need for formal harm-benefit analyses, particularly those that are stratified according to risk of serious COVID-19 outcomes. These analyses will require public release of participant level datasets.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Let's not get into the weeds here. We have published studies on pubmed.gov going both ways....
That's why it's important to let people choose. I chose not to take the experimental vaccine. Like most pharmaceuticals, there are likely unknown side effects which we will not fully understand for many years. My health is good and I am young. If I were 80 with a compromised immune system I'd consider taking it.

You do you.

Thanks for all the replies to this thread.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Religious and medical exemptions are federally protected under Title VII of both the Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act.

That is not true.

 

[BigGuy4U]

That is not true.

Yes, it is. The question is whether or not the company can justify if the employee's requested accommodation is reasonable or not. A medical exemption typically requires more specific documentation, but a religious exemption only requires a sincere belief in a higher power, which is very difficult for a company to say "no you don't" on.

From what I've seen, you can certainly make a case against the COVID vaccine on both counts.

But as Flyingclamsforever said, "you do you", just don't force other people to make decisions that aren't your own out of irrational fear.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Yes, it is.

No, it’s not. Unlike you, I actually employ labor attorneys who have advised me on this as an employer. You are dead wrong.

 

[I Like IKE]

I can understand needing medical exemptions. But can someone explain to me how anyone could have a religious objection to vaccines? Where in any holy scripture does it say "no vaccines?" I grew up in a very strict Mormon home. I studied the Bible and other Mormon scriptures. And there was nothing saying anything against vaccines. It sounds like more people hiding their ignorance behind "deeply held religious beliefs." But that's just me.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I can understand needing medical exemptions. But can someone explain to me how anyone could have a religious objection to vaccines? Where in any holy scripture does it say "no vaccines?" I grew up in a very strict Mormon home. I studied the Bible and other Mormon scriptures. And there was nothing saying anything against vaccines. It sounds like more people hiding their ignorance behind "deeply held religious beliefs." But that's just me.

The only significant religious movement opposed to vaccines is Christian Scientists. And they’re not exactly a big denomination.

 

[StuckInRedDirt]

But can someone explain to me how anyone could have a religious objection to vaccines?

No, let this dumpster fire of a thread die. It's no longer a career specific discussion.

Y'all need a hug.

 

[SteveC]

If desired, continue the discussion here: https://jetcareers.com/forums/threads/the-covid-omnibus-thread.306682/