poser765
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That's my guess. Don't they already have in "in bed together relationship with UA?
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ComplexHiAv8r
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skatergeek
Beet Farmer
Curious if this is why XJT shut down all the DL flying a few weeks ago....?
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Was just confused because he said CA, and not C5, but I figured it out.
The fact still remains that Inc. used SKW as a pawn, and had they voted to unionize, ASA might not have had been given the shaft like they were.
And call it whatever you'd like. It's not a contract, and as far as I know, it can be amended without the pilot groups approval. A "working agreement" is not enforceable as far as I understand it.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Standby for one of them to pretend that this isn’t the case.
ian
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But but but the association....
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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gotWXdagain
Polished Member
In 10 years the wholly-owned regional feed will have been integrated back into mainline with nothing under 70 seats, and the independent “regionals” will be completely at-risk, except maybe with codeshares, and the paint on their planes will match the paychecks.
The Legacies figured out how to break scope with pilot unions, but they’ll never be able to get around basic economic principles.
The Legacies figured out how to break scope with pilot unions, but they’ll never be able to get around basic economic principles.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Were an unbroken two decades of economic growth to take place, I think you’d be right. But that won’t happen. We’re due for a significant correction, and that resets the board. Demand will drop, schedules will be cut, and management gets a reprieve from labor economics reality once again.
Screaming_Emu
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MAGA!
deadstick
Well-Known Member
Was I the only one who was scratching his head because Comair came to mind first?
Just to satisfy my curiosity, is XJT still running as BTA or did that fall by the wayside with the Skywest/ASA deal?
ASQ now
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
FIFY, for all those kids out there who don't know that history repeats itself.
And what do you think would happen if inc implemented a non friendly amendment without a vote? A union would be on property before you could blink. Right now it’s a perfect mix of good times, quick upgrades, and stability in a very turbulent time in the regional industry. Some will contradict what I’ve just said citing the newest contract. I say this: when times are good at your shop you tend to be easier to please. Bitterness != Testicular Fortitude
FloridaLarry
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re: Commutair
UAL owns 40% of Commutair, dating from 2016 and the start of the Embraer era at C7.
Sounds like sharing the blankie to me.
UAL owns 40% of Commutair, dating from 2016 and the start of the Embraer era at C7.
Sounds like sharing the blankie to me.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Why do you think getting a union property on now or later when its already too late will matter? You're not going to get anything except status quo and job protection (discipline).
Negotiations will take years and then youll still never agree on section 3, 25 and either vacation or training or both until you go to an arbitrator and by then you'll have all left leaving a toothless set of new hires behind who knew the pay when they got in the company and won't be able to get anything except perhaps what you had before draconian cuts.
Lets face it, the majority of skywest pilots are happy, for whatever reason, and even if you got a union after some sort of weird management betrayal after 2-5 years you'd only get back what you had.
Tell me more. Go talk to some DTW/MSP/ORD/really any CRJ guys outside of SLC and let me know how happy they are.
If they're lucky. The reason that they'd take stuff away is because of financial trouble most likely, and I can already hear managements battle cry, just like I've heard in the past. Once it's gone, it 10 times as hard to get it back, and you usually have to give something up for it.