Airman1985
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A friend of mine says that United Airlines has a converted 747-200 with winglets still operating-- it looks about the same as 747-400. Is this true???
United 747-200 w/ Winglets?
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Airman1985
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a little more info:
built in 1984 and had a complete overhaul in 2000.
JustinS
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Currently, United only operates 747-400s. There are no -200s in the fleet (I wish). I did a little googling, and found that at one point they tried experimenting with winglets on the -200s. United never had any -200s with winglets though.
A Life Aloft
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I believe the last 200 went in 2000 and they did sell two to NWA. I think Kalitta got one, and I know one was sitting out at Mojave at some point and one other had gone overseas. A couple were scraped at Marana. No winglets that I remember.
ChasenSFO
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Is that an ex Flying Tigers/FedEx plane?
JustinS
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Airman1985
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Is there any chance that some of their 747s are somehow converted to 747-400 from classic models?
Pilot Fighter
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Maybe somebody saw a 747-400F and thought they were looking at a 747-200 with winglets.
A Life Aloft
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UAL hasn't had an SP in service since the mid 90's. I think the last one went in '96. They had acquired them all (7) from Pan Am. Remember too, the fuselages were much shorter along with other differences. (different engines, taller fin, longer horizontal stabs, rudder with double hinges, fewer emergency exits- and some other differences) No way to convert that.
Airman1985
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Just wanted to make sure that I was in fact hearing something crazy. I have seen some 747-400D that looked exactly like a 747-300 externally except that -300's engines had distinct looks.
Cal Goat
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The classics could be converted to the stretched upper deck, and I think there were some airlines that did that.
The -300 was the stretched upper deck from the factory, but it was the same wing and engines as the classics. I think the 300 still used a FE.
Anyway, the real point is that classic 747s are flying all over the world and nobody has bothered to retrofit them with winglets.
The -300 was the stretched upper deck from the factory, but it was the same wing and engines as the classics. I think the 300 still used a FE.
Anyway, the real point is that classic 747s are flying all over the world and nobody has bothered to retrofit them with winglets.
A Life Aloft
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This would be news to me. In the 80's Boeing had thought about a re-design of the SP with a two pilot cockpit and some of the updated features of a 400, but never built one that I am aware of.
Pilot Fighter
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I recall a JAL -100 series that was retrofitted with a -300 upper deck.
Edit: The JAL was a -100 that was fitted originally with an extended upper deck.
"The extended upper deck was also offered as a retrofit to existing 747-100/-200s, although the only airlines to take up this option were KLM and UTA. KLM has since converted two to freighters, resulting in the first 747 freighters with the stretched upper deck. Also, two JAL 747-100s were delivered new with the extended upper deck"
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=99
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A Life Aloft
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UTA and KLM had a combi then. (forgot about those - I think so few were built) Did JAL fly a combi? I didn't think they did. I can't recall who may have had a combi though, but that was not very common I don't think. I can't imagine any still in service though.
Jimmy_Norton
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Thought I was on airliners.net for a brief moment....