PlaneFan82
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Has anyone had any issues getting through TSA Pre-Check while jumpseating? A TSA agent told me today that "it has to be printed on your ticket, regardless if you possess a Global Entry card".
TSA Pre-Check For Dispatchers
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Hecklers2002
M.82
Yeah only way they let you through is if it's printed on your boarding pass, chosen random to take the pre-check lane or if they have that line open for everyone. It differs per airport really.
BoilerOps
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What airport?
Bear in mind that Pre Check isn't the same as the crew line everywhere. If you're Jumpseating and go through a combination crew line and TSA Pre Check (like they have at KLAS) then it doesn't have to be printed on anything but you do have to have your credentials and be in a shirt and tie. Otherwise, yes, you do need to have a boarding pass that has Pre Check printed on it.
PlaneFan82
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Shirt and tie...that's a new one. Is that supposed to be "our uniform"?
BoilerOps
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No but "business casual" is quoted in the TFSSP as acceptable for non-working [traveling] certificated airmen. I suppose the tie isn't necessary but I never Jumpseat without it.
PlaneFan82
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Unless I'm on fedex, I'm always in Business Casual. At DCA it's a combined crew/PreCheck line. I had my ID, Jumpseat coupon, Global Entry card, and passport out and they still refused me passage. Just a bit annoying----I wonder if there is a way to get you Known Traveller Number to sync up with CASS---especially since it's linked to your passport.
PHL_Approach
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I do know Endeavor Dispatchers did everything in their power to press the FAA and TSA into getting us into KCM. After all we are in CASS already... Sounded like they kept making up excuses and back peddling. Sure would love to get the ADF on the case.
Brett Spurgeon
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We tried. Perhaps in a month or two, we can try again....
PlaneFan82
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There is absolutely no reason why we should be in KCM. Additionally the uniform thing seems to rear its ugly head depending which airport you go to. It shouldn't matter what we wear, or how many ounces of liquids we have---Pilots, dispatchers, and flight attendants all take the same security training and pass the same background checks.
PlaneFun
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It's a hit or miss with the TSA Precheck like and even the employee line because "we are not in uniform". It mainly depends on the TSA agents you encounter. I commute out of ORD and just finally ended up paying the $85 for Precheck. 90% of the time it's shorter than the crew line, you don't have to explain this is my uniform, keep your shoes and coat on! It also let's you attach the KTN number to your nonrev benefits! So sometimes even if I am jumpseating on another carrier, I'll list for my own airline just to print out the boarding pass with the TSA Precheck to not deal with the hassle!
Brett Spurgeon
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There are numerous dispatchers that commute who would benefit from this, not just with me but with other carriers as well.
letthatsinkin
Well-Known Member
It really only works when you are jumpseating on your own airline and book through your own airlines booking site. Mine for example you have to enter your known traveler number and then any reservations you make from that point on draw from that info when making your record. Any time you have to make your listing through a CSR I don't see how it would work.
Maybe in the future with sites like ID90T And Myidtravel they will find a way to standardize offline JS listing.
Maybe in the future with sites like ID90T And Myidtravel they will find a way to standardize offline JS listing.
nyk
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As a airline employee we shouldnt have to pay or get a significant discount.
thewaffles
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I usually fly on company, so I have no issues with PreCheck. What gets me more is the fact that some TSA agents won't allow me to go through security with a boarding pass and airline ID. It states clearly on their website that airline ID is an approved form of identification, yet they claim I have to be "in uniform".
PHL_Approach
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Yea, and it's all over the TSA manuals too.
MT
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KCM would be very nice to have but they struggled to get FA's into the program with the TSA. However I understand why we don't have it and I'm ok with it. KCM does stipulate that the employee must be in uniform, and we don't have one. Pre Check on the other hand is the best $100 i've spent since I got global entry. Granted there were people in the precheck line this week that I'm surprised had the knowledge to even book a ticket.
If you're a commuting dispatcher, then I would absolutely spring for Pre-Check. I will even wait an extra 5 minutes or so in line just to not have to take off my jacket,belt,shoes and take my crap out of my bag.
If you're a commuting dispatcher, then I would absolutely spring for Pre-Check. I will even wait an extra 5 minutes or so in line just to not have to take off my jacket,belt,shoes and take my crap out of my bag.
Brett Spurgeon
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They agreed to your company's AOSSP. Remind them of that sometime. I do that and I get a puzzled look in response.
Kev
RNP 2112
It's so silly... If I have a Captain's Jumpseat Request Form printed at check-in, the ticket says ***CASS***. Yet I try to go through the trusted traveler lane, and it doesn't say pre-check... CASS doesn't get more "trusted traveler!!!"
What I do is find the employee line armed with company badge, FAA license, and driver's license. Though the checkpoint is usually reserved for people with vendor or SIDA approval, you can mostly cut corners this way. Many times I'll show up without a jumpseat pass and let the agent know I'm getting one at the gate. But it does help to have the jumpseat form with ***CASS*** printed on it, if you run into any problems. I've worked the following scenario a few times without having to go to the back of the line.
"Good day, I'm an airline employee who will be requesting a cockpit jumpseat at the gate." (show employee ID, license, and jumpseat pass, pointing to the CASS on the ticket)
"You'll have to use the regular line."
"Oh, I see... has the policy changed?"
"...you'll have to use the regular line."
"I'm sorry to bother you, but may I please stand aside and speak to a team leader?"
Chances are you're dealing with someone who hasn't been there long and hasn't had cause to interact with such a situation with someone out of uniform.
The team leader probably has. Each time I've been cleared.
What I do is find the employee line armed with company badge, FAA license, and driver's license. Though the checkpoint is usually reserved for people with vendor or SIDA approval, you can mostly cut corners this way. Many times I'll show up without a jumpseat pass and let the agent know I'm getting one at the gate. But it does help to have the jumpseat form with ***CASS*** printed on it, if you run into any problems. I've worked the following scenario a few times without having to go to the back of the line.
"Good day, I'm an airline employee who will be requesting a cockpit jumpseat at the gate." (show employee ID, license, and jumpseat pass, pointing to the CASS on the ticket)
"You'll have to use the regular line."
"Oh, I see... has the policy changed?"
"...you'll have to use the regular line."
"I'm sorry to bother you, but may I please stand aside and speak to a team leader?"
Chances are you're dealing with someone who hasn't been there long and hasn't had cause to interact with such a situation with someone out of uniform.
The team leader probably has. Each time I've been cleared.