TSA at your FBO

That will equal how many more THOUSAND of TSA employees making 40,000$ a year??!!

They don't make that much. Avg is barely $30k/yr.

TSA can come to an FBO and check all the airport badges they want, since you can not deny someone that, but they can't DO anything! The badges do not even belong to them. They belong to the airport.

TSA is trying to justify their existance by trying to involve themselves in everything.
 
At IWA all you need toget out onto the ramp is a key card given to you by the airport. NOW the TSA came to the airport and is requiring to have an airport issued photo id with background check like a big airport. We have to pay 50 for the id now as well to cover the costs. Apparently they will actually checking the ids and searching. F the TSA!
 
TSA has no control over security other than screening passengers and bags on some flights. They have very little authority over airport security, for now, although they want to be the sole controller of everything. Security measures are still reliant on the airport. This is why airports hire local/state police offers, not TSA. If TSA ever gives you heck over not having an ID, all they can do is go to the FBO/Airport manager and cry over the person not having a badge and try to tell them to issue one. The manager can comply or not, but if airport management requires the badge, then that is a different story.

TSA does not and never will run airports. None of them are smart enough anyway. In fact, local police have more authority than TSA.

I have actually pulled a TSA employee's badge for piggybacking someone into a SIDA area (not even allowed for her to be there). So if you ever see one on the actual ramp, please ask to see their badge. Only in some rare cases are they even allowed to even be on the ramp.

I love giving TSA a hard time, it's only kharma right?
 
They came around our work the other day check all the line guys and pilots badges... Kinda surprising seeing them rolling around 135 cargo. They rolled up in a GOV car and it seemed like a field trip or something.
 
They came around our work the other day check all the line guys and pilots badges... Kinda surprising seeing them rolling around 135 cargo. They rolled up in a GOV car and it seemed like a field trip or something.

Must have not met their starbucks quota at the main terminal...:laff:
 
We are a part 61 school but they visit us. Maybe because its a part 139 airport?

I know they visit everyone, but just being 141 with all the extra rules and regulations, they like to check up on us. There's not much in this state so they need to do anything from getting bored! :rolleyes:
 
TSA has no control over security other than screening passengers and bags on some flights. They have very little authority over airport security, for now, although they want to be the sole controller of everything. Security measures are still reliant on the airport. This is why airports hire local/state police offers, not TSA. If TSA ever gives you heck over not having an ID, all they can do is go to the FBO/Airport manager and cry over the person not having a badge and try to tell them to issue one. The manager can comply or not, but if airport management requires the badge, then that is a different story.

TSA does not and never will run airports. None of them are smart enough anyway. In fact, local police have more authority than TSA.

I have actually pulled a TSA employee's badge for piggybacking someone into a SIDA area (not even allowed for her to be there). So if you ever see one on the actual ramp, please ask to see their badge. Only in some rare cases are they even allowed to even be on the ramp.

I love giving TSA a hard time, it's only kharma right?

Never underestimate the TSA's desire (and possibly ability) to make the lives of general aviation pilots holy hell--especially if the Large Aircraft Security Program (LASP) passes, because we all know where things lead from there. Please take the time to educate yourselves on this proposal through EAA, AOPA, etc. and to make comments at http://www.regulations.gov Docket # TSA-2008-0021. TSA will be in your back yard if we don't stop them--soon.
 
What exactly are they looking for? Nothing says you can't carry a BIG F-ING GUN on a GA airplane.

Yeah, Im kinda waiting for that one myself, as I DO carry a gun when i am in the hanger, or fbo area. I have been asked by tsa to see my sida badge, but they have never questioned further...yet
 
Haven't seen any TSA at TKI. There's a government van though; I think its like Customs but I can't quite remember.
 
Never underestimate the TSA's desire (and possibly ability) to make the lives of general aviation pilots holy hell--especially if the Large Aircraft Security Program (LASP) passes, because we all know where things lead from there. Please take the time to educate yourselves on this proposal through EAA, AOPA, etc. and to make comments at http://www.regulations.gov Docket # TSA-2008-0021. TSA will be in your back yard if we don't stop them--soon.

If that passes I think I'll move to Canada.

TSA is trying hard to think of things to justify their existence. It will be a fight for sure to stop them, but I'm confident whoever has to sign the bill to approve it, probably flies in a private plane larger than 12.5k, therefore it would be ironic... :) :rolleyes:
 
If that passes I think I'll move to Canada.

TSA is trying hard to think of things to justify their existence. It will be a fight for sure to stop them, but I'm confident whoever has to sign the bill to approve it, probably flies in a private plane larger than 12.5k, therefore it would be ironic... :) :rolleyes:

good point. Ive seen Pelosi several times at SFO in her G550
 
They came around our work the other day check all the line guys and pilots badges... Kinda surprising seeing them rolling around 135 cargo. They rolled up in a GOV car and it seemed like a field trip or something.
maybe off topic,maybenot seeing as how if it's not being used for it's intended use for the TSA inspecting outside its region. But I love going to the grocery store, liquor store, Blockbuster etc and seeing a govvie vehicle that has govt plates and says "official use only". I would call the plates in except I know it would do no good.
 
Easiest way to get rid fo the TSA, give all passengers boarding an airplane a .45:D That way when some on gets up and screams out, "I have a bomb." KAAAPPOOOOOOWWWWW! "Threat Nuetralized."
 
Haven't seen any TSA at TKI. There's a government van though; I think its like Customs but I can't quite remember.


:yeahthat:

its an FAA van that is checking out our airports stuff. mapping out the specs for the new runway and tower.
 
Well, there's white one right behind the Cutter/Mgmt building. I looked yesterday, and it was a Customs and Border Patrol one.

Had a light bar and everything! :nana2:
 
from AOPA:

Quick pilot action keeps TSA in check
By AOPA ePublishing staff

AOPA members have expressed concern about reports that Transportation Security Administration officials stopped and screened general aviation pilots and their passengers at a fixed-base operation in Nashville, Tenn., before they could access their airplanes.

That incident, combined with recent changes to security badge requirements at commercial airports and the TSA’s proposed Large Aircraft Security Program, has left many pilots wondering if this is an all-out assault on GA by the TSA. AOPA has been working quietly behind the scenes with the TSA to get to the bottom of what’s happening.

As it turns out, the screening episode stemmed from a TSA “playbook”—a restricted document designed to assist federal security directors in adding randomness and unpredictability to their security procedures. The problem resulted when the security directors incorrectly applied the procedures, which were intended for commercial operations, to the GA side of the airport. The TSA is in the process of correcting the guidance that was distributed to federal security directors throughout the country.

“It is important that pilots let us know when they see these types of occurrences because we can take their concerns directly to the TSA,” said Craig Spence, AOPA vice president of security. “In this case, TSA officials had not intended for their policy to be interpreted this way, and when we told them about it, they quickly corrected the problem.”

Pilots can alert AOPA by calling 800/USA-AOPA or sending an e-mail.
 
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