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Lowlevel

Heehee.. Member
so with 500TT i'm supposed to fly a 152 for traffic watch? almost had me interested. KPNE is pretty cool, i had a good time there but dam..
That is an requirement placed by the media corp. They have tried for years to get them to lower the min. total time, but they refuse. Back when airlines required 1500 or 2000 total time, it was easy to find pilots, then airlines started hiring people with 240 hours. Now, as it is where I work, many airlines are furloughing and not many are hiring. So, many pilots are looking for something to do, now that they are unemployed (furloughed) or can't get hired at an airline. Many of the pilots that have flown here before moving on to airlines have said that flying traffic here was the best flying job they had, and is better than the airline they went to. Sure it's exciting to fly a jet at .80 mach (for a few months until it becomes old hat), but I guarantee it is more fun flying at 1000 feet AGL over the city or along the beach at 500 feet. Entering the class B and flying VFR right over KPHL during the busiest times....priceless. But hey, I'm just putting it out there. I happen to know around 350 pilots (including me) that are going to be looking for a job come January.
 

splash

your social justice comic center
so with 500TT i'm supposed to fly a 152 for traffic watch? almost had me interested. KPNE is pretty cool, i had a good time there but dam..

Looks like another case of BJS...:banghead: What do you expect to fly at 500TT? Stop, breath, and look around!
 

rdsoxpilot

Well-Known Member
Just curious if you want to expand on your comment. Why do you feel like this?
just thought it was a bit weird to see a company requiring 500tt to fly a 152. but lowlevel explained it to me like a pro.

if anything i was throwing my .02 out there. take it or leave it
 

Ray Finkle

New Member
Ok. Just curious.

I read his post too. I would've submitted it may be an insurance requirement, unless that is what he was saying as well.
 

myron96

Well-Known Member
so with 500TT i'm supposed to fly a 152 for traffic watch? almost had me interested. KPNE is pretty cool, i had a good time there but dam..
You know I had to laugh at this one... Kind of reminds me of a trip I took to NC a few months back. I was travelling down the road and saw a gas station with a sign that had 87 gas for 3.65 a gallon. I thought, damn I better stop and fill up here ,that is dirt cheap....Now to the point of my post....

When did we start to think that 3.65 a gallon was cheap, and when did we start thinking that 500tt was a lot.....Just my opinion, but when I had 500tt, I had so much too learn, and for that matter still do.....
 

Joe Gremlin

Well-Known Member
Does this deal offer a paycheck of any consequence in exchange for flying around Philly at 1000ft all day playing the 'where ya gonna put it' game?
 

Lowlevel

Heehee.. Member
Does this deal offer a paycheck of any consequence in exchange for flying around Philly at 1000ft all day playing the 'where ya gonna put it' game?
Oh, come on people! What happened to the days when you got a flying job to gain experience and hours? Regional airlines are paying crap 18K a year to start and you want $50 bucks an hour to fly traffic? You'd be surprised how many open areas are in the Philly area to use in an emergency. I bet you'd want a lot of money to pull banners around because you may have to ditch in the ocean.
 

falconvalley

Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
People who haven't been in aviation for over a cycle just don't realize that in the down cycle, you can't find a job easily with less than 500 and when you're at 500, you can fly SE and that's about it. If you wanna wait for the up cycle that's fine, but don't expect anybody to find a whole lot of humor in that kind of sarcasm.
 

CoffeeIcePapers

Well-Hung Member
People who haven't been in aviation for over a cycle just don't realize that in the down cycle, you can't find a job easily with less than 500 and when you're at 500, you can fly SE and that's about it. If you wanna wait for the up cycle that's fine, but don't expect anybody to find a whole lot of humor in that kind of sarcasm.

I have 1500 hours and the biggest thing I have flown is a Partenavia P68 twin piston, LOL. I will take what I can get at this point.
 

ppragman

FLIPY FLAPS!
I'd take it if I were going to school there, it'd be a good gig, and you'd be building time, what more do you want.
 

Ray Finkle

New Member
Oh, come on people! What happened to the days when you got a flying job to gain experience and hours? Regional airlines are paying crap 18K a year to start and you want $50 bucks an hour to fly traffic? You'd be surprised how many open areas are in the Philly area to use in an emergency. I bet you'd want a lot of money to pull banners around because you may have to ditch in the ocean.
No, Id want a lot of money to fly banners around because of the POS airplanes they use. :sarcasm: I dont know about other places but the ones down here scare the crap out of me just looking at them tied down to their spot. :laff:
 

Joe Gremlin

Well-Known Member
Oh, come on people! What happened to the days when you got a flying job to gain experience and hours? Regional airlines are paying crap 18K a year to start and you want $50 bucks an hour to fly traffic? You'd be surprised how many open areas are in the Philly area to use in an emergency. I bet you'd want a lot of money to pull banners around because you may have to ditch in the ocean.
Did I say I wanted $50 an hour? I asked what it paid. I'm already fully aware that it ain't a job I'd be interested in. I did my time in sky over Philly and got out of the biz. Thanks for the free lesson in how the industry works though. I feel enlightened now.

It goes without saying that flying traffic in a C152 is going to pay less than Burger King. I was just wondering what getting paid less than Burger King equates to in 2008 since it's been a while since I had to try to find a bank that would cash a paycheck written on a page in my logbook.
 

slushie

C56X ATP CFII MEI
haha 1000'???

I like my nice, comfy (albeit boring) traffic watch route.
Somewhere between 6500 and 9500 depending on the runways in use at McCarran.

Aaaaaaannnd. after about 300 hours of flying in a big circle around Vegas, I know when I would head for McCarran, Nellis or North Town with an engine out. I also know a bunch of flat spots with no telephone poles...and how to find them at night :)

Also, I must concur...GET PAID for it. If the people that operate the drive through window mechanism get paid more than the operator of an airplane there is a problem.
 
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