TXaviator
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i fail to see how any of us are cheating the system in any way.
we complied with the requirements set forth by UND.
thus we are awarded the benefits of such.
where is the cheating?
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i fail to see how any of us are cheating the system in any way.
we complied with the requirements set forth by UND.
thus we are awarded the benefits of such.
where is the cheating?
My words are irrelevant.
I'm going to do this copy and paste slowly, so you can follow along:
Does that look familiar?
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TXaviator
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JaceTheAce
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Yes it does. You just answered the question in our favour.
I complied with those instructions. I earned my residency.
If I was cheating the system they would have denied me my residency.
AngelFuree
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It's not cheating. No where does it say you have to be patriotic to the gorgeous country of ND.
AngelFuree
Well-Known Member
You're right. You're wasting our time.
You're right -- I have no idea where I got the idea anyone might be trying to deceive anyone.
:whatever:
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JaceTheAce
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They sure as hell have enough time for it.
If you:
-Have lived in North Dakota for more than 1 year prior to the beginning of the semester,
-Maintained residency there for the whole time (didn't go to your "home" state for three months over the summer - two week vacation O.K., all of summer break - no), including paying rent/mortgage and keeping your residence occupied,
-Have a ND driver's license (if you have a DL),
-Your car is registered in ND,
-Have voted in ND, or at least not voted anywhere else during your residency in ND,
-Paid into, and filed ND state income tax if you had a job there,
then congratulations, you're a resident. You can have in-state tuition.
Sounds like some of you guys have done all that. If so, I'll stand corrected.
Just don't "pretend".
-Have lived in North Dakota for more than 1 year prior to the beginning of the semester,
-Maintained residency there for the whole time (didn't go to your "home" state for three months over the summer - two week vacation O.K., all of summer break - no), including paying rent/mortgage and keeping your residence occupied,
-Have a ND driver's license (if you have a DL),
-Your car is registered in ND,
-Have voted in ND, or at least not voted anywhere else during your residency in ND,
-Paid into, and filed ND state income tax if you had a job there,
then congratulations, you're a resident. You can have in-state tuition.
Sounds like some of you guys have done all that. If so, I'll stand corrected.
Just don't "pretend".
And maybe a course in logic.
If you are cheating the system, AND THEY CATCH YOU, they will deny you the residency.
You claim that you have assumed the responsibilities of legal residency. Why, then, would you advise someone to "pretend" and "make it sound like" in order to "assume" their responsibilities?
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Tommay85
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What are these other responsibilities you're talking about? I live here, have the ND drivers license, fishing license, vote, and PAY TAXES(not yelling, just emphasizing that) What else would you propose that I do? Get brainwashed to the point that I think I was born here and have never even seen another state?
JaceTheAce
Well-Known Member
You're right -- I have no idea where I got the idea anyone might be trying to deceive anyone.
:whatever:
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I am giving this advice to people like me who are completely on their own living in this state YEAR ROUND. Everyone has some sort of permanent address, whether you're 40 or 18 years old. You may have a parent, sibling, or friend who's address you can provide as a permanent address. But even though you have no ties to these addresses (like me), they may deny you if you list a permanent address, under the notion that you are a "dependent" with parents out of state.Originally Posted by JaceTheAce
Oh yeah that's right as Angel stated... DO NOT list a permanent address as out of state... ie... if you have a parent's address. That's an automatic disqualification. Just pretend that you moved from some other state to the wonderful beautiful North Dakota and make it sound like you're going to make North Dakota your wonderful place to live and make afamily for the rest of your life. (It is a great place to live! Seriously folks!
My permanent address is the address here in North Dakota. I am 25 years old and don't "go home to mommy and daddy" on summer break. I stay here year round. I listed this advice for the sake of saving people from making the mistake of listing some sort of "permanent address", therefore I used sarcasm.
But, if you are an 18 year old student living in the dorms and go home to mom and dad every break, you MUST have a permanent address, and shouldn't have the right to North Dakotan resident status. I think this is where you are getting confused. Me, AngelFuree, and TXAviator, are completely tied to this state full time, therefore deserve resident status according to the requirements listed by the school.
Tommay85
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Yep, done all that except for the car because it technically isn't mine as it is registered to my parents. Doing so would probably be bad for my parent's residency in Iowa.
However, I don't see where it matters that I live here a year before starting school or apply after being here for a year though. Physically residing for a year is just that regardless of what you're doing(work, school, buying meth
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JaceTheAce
Well-Known Member
Yes, I have.
Yes. I have paid my $800 per month here at this apartment since August 2004, stayed here every summer (summer school, worked, etc), with the occasional visits to see the family.
In fact, I worked with a mortgage broker, a few lenders, and a realtor, got pre-approved for a $110,000 mortgage for a condo here, but decided it wasn't a good decision investment wise. I actually had intentions of buying real estate here (that would've been a bad move).
Yes, I have a ND driver's license.
Car is registered in ND, would you like the plate #?
I voted soon after I moved here. Even voted for George W. Bush (sorry TXAviator
)I've filed ND state income tax every year I've lived here.
BINGO! I'm a resident.
However, I don't see where it matters that I live here a year before starting school or apply after being here for a year though. Physically residing for a year is just that regardless of what you're doing(work, school, buying meth
You don't have to live there for a year before starting school, you just have to live there for a year before you can attend school at the in-state tuition rates. The first year will be out-of-state.
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
Oh ok, I just wasn't sure what you were saying there. I did infact pay out of state tuition the first year. A small sacrafice to what college could cost if I paid out of state tuition all 4 years.
I'm so pleased that everyone has suddenly reformed and is now a legitimate resident of North Dakota.
It would have been so much easier if your previous advice had been sound, and in accordance with the letter and spirit of the law.
Here's more bad advice that would cause one to wonder:
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It would have been so much easier if your previous advice had been sound, and in accordance with the letter and spirit of the law.
UAL747400, that question has been answered several times in this thread now. The answer can be found on your school's website, and that's really the only answer with which anyone need be concerned. The actions above are included (assuming that by PAY TAXES you mean income taxes -- sales taxes don't count). On the outside chance that you're not being facetious, no, you don't have to be born there; it's not on the list.
Here's more bad advice that would cause one to wonder:
DUH. That's why you shouldn't DO it, not why you should hide it.
Sorry -- just paying taxes doesn't cut it. I pay taxes every time I overnight in Grand Forks -- should I get In-State tuition? Nope.
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JaceTheAce
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I paid out of state tuition the first year too (except it wasn't the full out of state tuition... it was the Western Exchange deal ND gives to a few states to try to lure residents that normally wouldn't want to go to North Dakota... it's only 1.5 times the in-state tuition - cheap).