Took the tour yesterday....random thoughts...

JaceTheAce said:
YES!!!!!! I forgot to list it. I do have one.
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Excellent. Why then would you advise anyone to do differently? Your advice included don't tell them you have a car, you don't need a Driver's License, and motor vehicle registration doesn't count. You told him to "PRETEND." That's not what you've done, and it's poor advice.



Don't pretend -- tell the truth.










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JaceTheAce said:
LOL! Honestly I don't agree with the cultural diversity waivers since it isn't fair to fully white people, but heck, if they offer it to me while a poor college student I'm not going to turn it down!
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I disagree w/ you. It is an excellent tactic to encourage students like me to attend UND. I'm not lying when I say this, but it was what sealed the deal for my attendance of this university. I knew about it before I came here. It's excellent marketing only to discover you didn't get it because you're not native-american-enough.

They specifically list Black, Hispanic, American Indian, or Asian Americans as those who qualify. I am one of those (1/2 Mexican).
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I think they just list that as examples, since it's more of a "historically under-represented groups" criteria. Proof of that is a member here who got it (non-black/hispanic/indian/asian).
 
TonyC said:
Excellent. Why then would you advise anyone to do differently? Your advice included don't tell them you have a car, you don't need a Driver's License, and motor vehicle registration doesn't count. That's not what you've done, and it's poor advice.
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Tony, let me explain once more since you seem to not have any clue as to what you're talking about.

I told people that mentioning that they own a car that is registered out of state is a disqualifier. From what I was told in the business office, a driver's license merely fulfills ONE of the options of demonstrating your residency and that motor vehicle registration DOES count, but as long as it's registered in the state of North Dakota.

It's not poor advice. I went through the process and got approved.

How difficult is it for you to understand?
 
Are you guys go to tell me that you honestly consider yourselves residents of North Dakota, and deserve the tuition break?

It would be a simple matter to go back through some of the posts in this very forum to prove that most of you are not, nor have any intention of becoming, a citizen of North Dakota. And before you get back on your high horse and become indignent, go back are read very carefully those criteria that Tony quoted, especially the highlighted sections.

I wonder if the term "good moral character" ever comes into play in the future of your chosen profession?

Cheating the system...everybody does it so it must be O.K.

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AngelFuree said:
I disagree w/ you. It is an excellent tactic to encourage students like me to attend UND. I'm not lying when I say this, but it was what sealed the deal for my attendance of this university. I knew about it before I came here. It's excellent marketing only to discover you didn't get it because you're not native-american-enough.


I think they just list that as examples, since it's more of a "historically under-represented groups" criteria. Proof of that is a member here who got it (non-black/hispanic/indian/asian).
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I didn't know about it until I saw the application in the financial aide office after I moved here.
 
SteveC said:
Are you guys go to tell me that you honestly consider yourselves residents of North Dakota, and deserve the tuition break?

It would be a simple matter to go back through some of the posts in this very forum to prove that most of you are not, nor have any intention of becoming, a citizen of North Dakota. And before you get back on your high horse and become indignent, go back are read very carefully those criteria that Tony quoted, especially the highlighted sections.

I wonder if the term "good moral character" ever comes into play in the future of your chosen profession?

Cheating the system...everybody does it so it must be O.K.

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Steve. We do our part as a resident. I live here year round. We fulfilled the requirements.

How do you know if I'm not going to stay here and make North Dakota my life long dream residence?

So what if I live here for the next 20 years. Even though I fulfilled all the requirements to become a ND resident you're telling me that I'm still not a resident?

I have absolutely NO personal ties to California whatsover, other than my family living there. Everything that I own is in North Dakota. I packed up a UHAUL full of every belonging of mine in the condo I rented in San Diego and moved it out here.

End of arguement.
 
SteveC said:
Are you guys go to tell me that you honestly consider yourselves residents of North Dakota, and deserve the tuition break?

It would be a simple matter to go back through some of the posts in this very forum to prove that most of you are not, nor have any intention of becoming, a citizen of North Dakota. And before you get back on your high horse and become indignent, go back are read very carefully those criteria that Tony quoted, especially the highlighted sections.

I wonder if the term "good moral character" ever comes into play in the future of your chosen profession?

Cheating the system...everybody does it so it must be O.K.

:mad:



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steve, being a resident and fulfilling the legal obligations of such, and having north dakota be the love in my heart, are two VERY different things.

i am a resident, i fulfill the obligations required of me as such, and i FULLY AM ENTITLED TO the benefits of such, as I have fulfilled my end of the bargain.


this thread was:

1) resident = lower tuition!
2) how to most quickly and satisfactorily become a resident!
3) argument over why a resident is not a resident?
 
TXaviator said:
steve, being a resident and fulfilling the legal obligations of such, and having north dakota be the love in my heart, are two VERY different things.

i am a resident, i fulfill the obligations required of me as such, and i FULLY AM ENTITLED TO the benefits of such, as I have fulfilled my end of the bargain.


this thread was:

1) resident = lower tuition!
2) how to most quickly and satisfactorily become a resident!
3) argument over why a resident is not a resident?
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Maybe we should start with a basic defenition of resident, since Steve does not seem to understand:

Main Entry: 1res·i·dent
Pronunciation: 're-z&-d&nt, 'rez-d&nt, 're-z&-"dent
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin resident-, residens, present participle of residEre
1 a : living in a place for some length of time : [SIZE=-1]RESIDING[/SIZE] b : serving in a regular or full-time capacity <the resident engineer for a highway department>; also : being in residence
2 : [SIZE=-1]PRESENT[/SIZE], [SIZE=-1]INHERENT[/SIZE]
3 : not migratory <resident species>
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"Living in a place for some length of time"
 
SteveC said:
Are you guys go to tell me that you honestly consider yourselves residents of North Dakota, and deserve the tuition break?

It would be a simple matter to go back through some of the posts in this very forum to prove that most of you are not, nor have any intention of becoming, a citizen of North Dakota. And before you get back on your high horse and become indignent, go back are read very carefully those criteria that Tony quoted, especially the highlighted sections.

I wonder if the term "good moral character" ever comes into play in the future of your chosen profession?

Cheating the system...everybody does it so it must be O.K.

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Yes, I consider myself a resident of North Dakota. Do I like it here? Absolutely not. I hate it here, but that doesn't make me a non-resident. Hating the place doesn't deter me from physically residing in this state.
edit:txaviator beat me to it.

Furthermore, the application is not for actual ND residency. It is an application of "ND Residency for Tuition Purposes," only.

Too hard to understand?
 
AngelFuree said:
Yes, I consider myself a resident of North Dakota. Do I like it here? Absolutely not. I hate it here, but that doesn't make me a non-resident. Hating the place doesn't deter me from physically residing in this state.
edit:txaviator beat me to it.

Furthermore, the application is not for actual ND residency. It is an application of "ND Residency for Tuition Purposes," only.

Too hard to understand?
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There we go. Covers my response too.

I don't know why that would be so hard for Steve to understand. :confused: I'm completely baffled.
 
I hope they offer a course in Reading Comprehension, and I hope you all take it.


Webster doesn't have any say in this game -- it's the University of North Dakota, and their procedure has already been quoted.


No, you don't have to plan to live there for twenty years. The procedure itself does not preclude one from being a resident just long enough to finish school -- but he has to assume the general responsibilities of legal residency.



I hope they offer a course in ethics, too.







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TonyC said:
No, you don't have to plan to live there for twenty years. The procedure itself does not preclude one from being a resident just long enough to finish school -- but he has to assume the general responsibilities of legal residency.
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Excellent, you finally understood.

I hope they offer a course in ethics, too.
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Excellent, you can come and teach it. I'm sure you would fit in.
 
SteveC said:
Are you guys go to tell me that you honestly consider yourselves residents of North Dakota, and deserve the tuition break?

It would be a simple matter to go back through some of the posts in this very forum to prove that most of you are not, nor have any intention of becoming, a citizen of North Dakota. And before you get back on your high horse and become indignent, go back are read very carefully those criteria that Tony quoted, especially the highlighted sections.

I wonder if the term "good moral character" ever comes into play in the future of your chosen profession?

Cheating the system...everybody does it so it must be O.K.

:mad:



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How am I cheating the system? I've been here year round the last 2 years and will continue to for the next two years at least. I've accomplished everything on that list for applying for residency(except for registering a car, because it's registered to my parents).

People move around all the time for jobs and other reasons. What's different about me doing the same to attend school?

Look, they offer a residency application, I filled it out and was accepted. Frankly I'm offended that you question my moral character. Maybe ND should make their residency requirements more stingent or UND should refuse our applications. I reside here year round contribute to the economy just as much as any other North Dakotan so how does that not make me a resident?

Do I have to like it all the way down to my soul and abandon all notions that I'm originally from Iowa to be a resident?
 
TonyC said:
I hope they offer a course in Reading Comprehension, and I hope you all take it.


Webster doesn't have any say in this game -- it's the University of North Dakota, and their procedure has already been quoted.


No, you don't have to plan to live there for twenty years. The procedure itself does not preclude one from being a resident just long enough to finish school -- but he has to assume the general responsibilities of legal residency.



I hope they offer a course in ethics, too.

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Tony don't go all slippery slope on us. It won't work.
 
TonyC said:
I have understood from the beginning.


When you understand what is means to "assume the responsibilities of legal residency" you'll be on the right track.






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clearly we all do understand, as we have been deemed satisfactorily complying with requirements set forth by the governing agency.
 
TonyC said:
I have understood from the beginning.


When you understand what is means to "assume the responsibilities of legal residency" you'll be on the right track..
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Perhaps your definition is the incorrect one?
I want you to define it in your own words. Let's see it.
 
TonyC said:
And the point of that would be _______ ?


The right of a ND resident is to get a resident hunting/fishing license after 6 months of residency.






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just responding to the way you made your point. i am not a ND resident and i didn't try to become one either and cheat the system
 
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