Tip the Damned Maid! (An article about tipping)
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amorris311
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I said I agreed with you. Ancillary fees and forcing the customer to tip hotel employees in a non traditional TIP position is absurd. Charge more for the room or service. Like I said, I leave TIPS when TIPS are warranted. The idea of TIPS for hotel maids is not traditional and it leads to lower incomes and you know how that works. The idea that Walmart prices for everything is foolish and I think even you can agree with that.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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That's simply not true.
I agree, and I'd love to eliminate the tipped minimum wage and the tipping culture in general in America. But I have about as much chance of accomplishing that as I do of convincing the President to drop nukes on the Middle East. So tip the damned maid!
amorris311
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Having it be expected and it now being considered a job that relies on TIPS certainly is.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Are you implying that hotels have lowered wages based on the expectation that the staff will receive tips?
amorris311
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Then I think it is good you tip everyone you come in contact with. Please do not complain or feel sorry for these people when they need government assistance in order to live. Think about it like tipping twice. Hard working people who do jobs we wouldn't think about on our worst day should not be treated poorly by the employer in order for them to up their stock value. That's all I'm really concerned about. Falls in the same lines with my stance on our wages and benefits.
NickH
Uber Driver
Sure it is! As we've established, it's not something done in Europe so it's certainly a new practice here in the 'New World'.
But that aside, as of last year only about 30% of travellers in one survey claimed not to tip maids, while a survey in 2011 had only 30% claiming that they did. Tipping of maids was not a common practice until the last few years, and it represents nothing but a push from big business to hide service charges from their customers. It's not about helping maids, merely a strategy for businesses to be more competitive.
amorris311
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Not implying, stating a fact.
Mark815
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I agree.
Call me dumb but I honestly didn't realize that tipping housekeeping was expected for an overnight, and I've been doing this for quite a few years now. I'm not trashing the room, and I pickup after myself. It really does feel like everybody just has their hands out expecting a tip for doing their job.
CamYZ125
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I thought tips were for good service?
If a waiter/waitress provides good service, I tip well. If a van driver provides good service, I tip well.
Why would I tip a person I will never see, whom I have no idea if they provide good/bad service?
I can see tipping if staying multiple nights in the same room, and the cleaning service is exceptional. But I'm not tipping for a one night stay.
If a waiter/waitress provides good service, I tip well. If a van driver provides good service, I tip well.
Why would I tip a person I will never see, whom I have no idea if they provide good/bad service?
I can see tipping if staying multiple nights in the same room, and the cleaning service is exceptional. But I'm not tipping for a one night stay.
CFIscare
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I would imagine they have not raised the wages based on the expectation that the staff will receive tips.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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CamYZ125 said:
No, a BETTER tip is for good service.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
No. I'm not going to tip someone for just simply doing their job. Tipping is for excellent service, above and beyond normal. It's just unfortunate that corporations have gotten the American public to subsidize their low wages by tips, and an even sadder state that we have been brainwashed to accept that.
CFIscare
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I'm not going to move to Europe because I expressed a displeasure in the direction tipping is moving to. Stop saying that. I don't screw the employees, and I do tip when appropriate. However, more and more companies are using tips as a way to subsidize an employees salary. Knowing tips vary so much, who is the one screwing the employee?
averettpilot
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Tipping is BS. I do it when appropriate, but it is still BS. It's not my responsibility to know whether or not a company is paying their employees appropriately. Charge me for the service and let that be the end of it.
X-Forces
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Thanks for having this come across my feed @ATN_Pilot ! Like I said there, my friends thought I was nuts that I didn't tip the maid at work, but I had not ever heard of it.
Professional pilots, when you stay at a hotel, tip your maid! And the van driver! And the bartender! Etc!Get on it guys and gals.
Uhh.......No
Sapper
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The corporations may not have outright reduced wages. However, keeping wages the same year over year while inflation erodes the value of wages earned IS a reduced wage (in the form of reduced purchasing power). When employees who receive tips complain their wages have been stagnate, management points to "tips" as a way to increase what the employee takes home. The end result is the employee gets screwed and the companies bottom line profit increases (as the company increases what they charge, but employee cost remains the same).
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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I hate to break it to you, but lower and middle class wages have been stagnant for a few decades in every line of work, not just for tipped workers. There is no evidence that tipping has any negative affect on earnings. That's just an excuse that cheapskates like to use for why they don't tip.
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