Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
"Oh good. One less negative pilot on Facebook."
I mean, I truly expect nothing less from the CRJ side of the house.
Thinking About Sun Country?
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I mean, I truly expect nothing less from the CRJ side of the house.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Ah, yeah I just saw that. Geeze. I bet he wonders why he can’t move on as well.
Whatever. Congrats again dude! I’m genuinely happy for you! You deserve it.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
DEN CRJ (presumably DMA, too), what a country.
I am genuinely excited, although it still feels very odd to be - however temporarily - unemployed.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Yeah, I flew with him at some point. He’s not very senior right?
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
I mean, mountain west, your guess is as good as mine.
Ayork62493
GBR
Check airman?
Cazadores
Well-Known Member
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
Oh, yes.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
If one does plan to leave for greener pastures. I'd upgrade and at least get 1000 PIC at your regional. Before going to a ULCC for the new type and more money.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
Did you two ever get to fly together? Probably not, right? Different bases and all.
Cazadores
Well-Known Member
True, however upgrading means a commute cross country, likely 2+ legs, and getting back west of the Rockies in at least a year to sit reserve, for more years, for less pay than a second or third year FO at a ULCC, with a chance to upgrade on the heavier jet. All at a regional whose management steadfastly refuses QOL improvements, pay increases or any commuter assistance. Period. All the while shrinking west and mountain west bases, forcing a huge number to commute.
At some point, the writing is on the wall, you have to just read it. I get your point, but I'm not sure putting off making a move is worth sticking around just to be yet another RJ captain with 1000 pic.
Of course, I'm probably totally wrong....
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tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Nope, would have been cool though!
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
True, however upgrading means a commute cross country, likely 2+ legs, and getting back west of the Rockies in at least a year to sit reserve, for more years, for less pay than a second or third year FO at a ULCC, with a chance to upgrade on the heavier jet. All at a regional whose management steadfastly refuses QOL improvements, pay increases or any commuter assistance. Period. All the while shrinking west and mountain west bases, forcing a huge number to commute.
At some point, the writing is on the wall, you have to just read it. I get your point, but I'm not sure putting off making a move is worth sticking around just to be yet another RJ captain with 1000 pic.
Of course, I'm probably totally wrong....
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#VoteALPA
Box hauler
Well-Known Member
Eh... it depends on the person I guess. If a person is dead set on a legacy airline you might be right. However if you would be happy at a ULCC for your career I say go asap. If I would have stayed at my regional for 1000 pic I would just be reaching it about now but instead I'm probably less than a year from upgrade on the Bus for much greater pay and QOL as well as better equipment. Different strokes for everyone but I'm happy I jumped ship. Making 200K+ with only 3 years of service sounds nice
Cazadores
Well-Known Member
I kinda think you're going to be better off for a legacy too, but who knows. If you're at Envoy or something...bottom line. Who knows.Eh... it depends on the person I guess. If a person is dead set on a legacy airline you might be right. However if you would be happy at a ULCC for your career I say go asap. If I would have stayed at my regional for 1000 pic I would just be reaching it about now but instead I'm probably less than a year from upgrade on the Bus for much greater pay and QOL as well as better equipment. Different strokes for everyone but I'm happy I jumped ship. Making 200K+ with only 3 years of service sounds nice
I sure as heck don't.
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JeppUpdater
Well-Known Member
You're a lot better off doing years at XYZ puddle jumper regional and looking like a well rounded person (getting in as an instructor or LCA, union duties, volunteer work, things outside of work) than doing a year or two at a regional, a year at another one, hopping over to Western Global, doing a year, going to some other ACMI, and then looking back in 8 years having never added a fourth stripe and just have a few type ratings and a bunch of explanations for why you left job after job.
Cazadores
Well-Known Member
That's true in any career. No one loves a gypsy, but I think going to one ACMI, or to an ULCC, from a regional is easily explained, and shows an interest in forward progression.
Still have to do things to round out your resume either way.
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mrivc211
Well-Known Member
Did he have the shiny gold name plate that had his name and "Checkairmen" under it. lol. Its almost as if they puffed their chests out further wearing those things.
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
I decided to imagine, not knowing this twerp from Adam in real life, him at about 5’4”, and one of those super-fit, super-overcompensating mountain west types who infest the program.
Hiboglossi
The Most Depressing Person
I'm not sure I agree with this- seems to me it would be wisest to take the first opportunity to escape the regionals, even if it is "just" an LCC or ACMI carrier. In waiting around to log 1000TPIC, you could forfeit hundreds if not thousands of seniority numbers at wherever you go. Plus you never know how long the opportunity to get hired at a ULCC will last- suppose the music stops before you get 1000TPIC? That's an especially relevant question right now, considering it's been almost 9 years since the last recession, which means we're just about due for another one. Even if the music doesn't stop industry-wide, considering how volatile the regional airline industry is, your regional could easily go the way of Comair before you reach 1000TPIC as well.
Also, while having 1000TPIC may be an advantage when applying to legacies, it doesn't guarantee anything. I've flown with captains who have many thousands of hours of TPIC and still can't get a call. As for the point about staying at a regional to become an LCA, LCAs make up a tiny portion of a pilot group, so a given pilot's chances of becoming one are slim.
The fact is that the legacies have many more applications on file than openings. The simple mathematics of the situation are that not everyone will get hired at a legacy airline. A ULCC would be a vastly better place to spend a career than a regional.