The way it still should be.
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I don't know the economics behind it, but it seems to work for other airlines that do it, and that do have a menu for you to pick a meal from.
For the most part U.S cariers are all the same. You don't get treated super nice, or get that feeling when you board of wow, this is pretty nice, like you do boarding Singapore Airlines for example, again. Since all the U.S airlines are pretty much the same when it comes to service, all the people have left to decide for and help them make a choice is which airline is the cheapest.
Like I said before, I can't speak for everyone, but I know myself, and the majority of the people I have spoken to about this would be willing to pay an extra couple of bucks to fly on a carier with good food, a nice and well designed interior, crew who is pleasant, dressed in nice uniforms, and at least somewhat pleasent to look at. I believe these things do make a difference, and do change peoples preference as to which airline they choose. The worlds most successful airlines are like this.
WAFlyBoy
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You're free to believe anything you want.
Perhaps on international routes. (Since the example you keep citing is Singapore Airlines, I assume you're referring to international service.) The margins for producing an accounting profit are much tighter with domestic flying, which is what I thought this thread is about.
I've heard that international flying on US carriers is a different (better?) experience than domestic flying. Anybody can correct me if I'm wrong.
greaper007
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Wow Toonces, so someone shouldn't be able to earn a livelihood because of their age or how they look? Maybe the flight attendants should have weekly weigh ins. I mean after all experience doesn't really commiserate with how well you preform your job. Could you imagine being on a plane during an emergency where every FA had 6 months of experience and the muscle mass of a supermodel. Of course you'd have something good to look at while you slowly died. Or how about those male flight attendants. I really hate having able bodied crew members when the latest extremest group decides to take over my aircraft.
Dude, I think you should really go back and read your posts. It's because of opinions like the ones that you posted that workplace discrimination laws exist. Everyone is and should be entitled to a job that they can perform well.
Dude, I think you should really go back and read your posts. It's because of opinions like the ones that you posted that workplace discrimination laws exist. Everyone is and should be entitled to a job that they can perform well.
I did have international flying somewhat in mind when I started the thread, although not necassarily limited too intl.
I keep citing Singapore as I was really impressed on my trip with them.
But at the same time, just because someone has the looks and body mass of a supermodel doesnt mean that they can't perform their job properly.
Not saying to fire all the stewardesses and replace them with models, but it would'nt kill anyone to hire and mix in a couple of lookers to boost morale, either.
Boost morale?
Toonces
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Have you walked into any Hooters, Winghouse or strip club lately? Sorry my friend, but weeding people out on the basis of looks and age and even gender already takes place. What is wrong with a company having a standard their employees must fit? Do you want to hire a quadriplegic lifeguard?
Emergencies Hah. How often do those happen anyway? In the event one does happen, how many of the present crop of FA’s would be able to keep it together anyhow. As a customer I would rather have some eye candy to look at on a six hour flight than a 60 yr old granny to point to a door in the unlikely event we have a crash I will live through
Toonces
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OMG I can't believe any pilot would say that. Do you prepare for emergencies in your airplane? V1 cuts? How often do they happen? Not often, but when they do you'd better know your ####! It doesn't matter how often emergencies occur, cause when they do happen, and they do happen, you HAVE to be prepared or people DIE.
I'd rather have a senior crew who's practiced their evac drills in recurrent every year for the past 10 years than someone who was hired because they're beautiful and doesn't want to break a nail throwing open a 767 door who's assist is broken!
There are so many documented cases of people who have lived through plane crashes as a direct result of flight attendants doing their assigned emergency duties. People who couldn't see an exit through the smoke-filled cabin (and a burning a/c fills up with smoke fast), but they could hear a voice shouting "COME THIS WAY", and that voice led them to the exit, and to their lives. People who's eyes have been literally filled with melted toxic crap, actually scraping melted plastic off their eyeballs. Unable to see, but again hearing someone shouting "COME THIS WAY", and they lived. How about the flight attendants that have given medical assistance to people, prolonging their lives long enough to land the plane and get them in the hands of medical personnel.
May no member of your family ever need the emergency assistance of a flight attendant. Especially with your attitude.
Yep. Us heterosexual guys like hot FA's believe it or not
How about the other half of the population? Does it occur to you that heterosexual guys are not the only people buying airline tickets?
And that has yet to answer what sort of morale and who's is being boosted by having only beautiful people as flight attendants.
tonyw
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The way I see it, if you're so hard up that you've got to have eye candy working the aisles of a plane, you ain't gonna be getting none.
So what difference does it make? You're just gonna have to head to the lav to fill your hand anyway.
It's an airplane, not a strip club. And I've seen some pretty unattractive women working the poles at strip clubs, so clearly, even there, looks aren't everything.
So what difference does it make? You're just gonna have to head to the lav to fill your hand anyway.
It's an airplane, not a strip club. And I've seen some pretty unattractive women working the poles at strip clubs, so clearly, even there, looks aren't everything.
Yeah, cause every waitress at Hooters is beautiful..... :laff:
I'd care more that they get my food out to me in a reasonable amount of time.
A quadriplegic person would not be qualified as a flight attendant. Not based on looks, but based on ability to do the job. That's what I'm talking about. Ability to do the job. Keep in mind, that just because someone is 50, doesn't mean they can't be beautiful too
Toonces
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Ok then. I think this thread has drifted off topic a little too far. I think we were originally talking about airline travels former greatness in the U.S, and how we could recapture that. I think in order to be perceived as spectacular, one must look and be the part.
1.Airplanes must be clean.
2.Baggage must get from point A to B in one piece and on time.
3.There should be adequate staff at ticket counters and gates to provide quality customer service.
4. Food should be served on all flights, time permitting.
5. Flight crews must look and be professional.
6. Cabin crews must provide excellent customer service. They are the face of the company. If it was your company, what face would you want it to look like?
This is my vision for returning the class and glory days to airline travel. Since pilots are a dime a dozen, why not have handsome pilots versus dumpy looking ones? Why not pay young attractive and qualified FA's the money they need and deserve to attract and keep them?
You don't have to like my ideas, but I stand behind them 100%. If you had your choice of flying an airline I was running or any other U.S airline today, which would you choose.
1.Airplanes must be clean.
2.Baggage must get from point A to B in one piece and on time.
3.There should be adequate staff at ticket counters and gates to provide quality customer service.
4. Food should be served on all flights, time permitting.
5. Flight crews must look and be professional.
6. Cabin crews must provide excellent customer service. They are the face of the company. If it was your company, what face would you want it to look like?
This is my vision for returning the class and glory days to airline travel. Since pilots are a dime a dozen, why not have handsome pilots versus dumpy looking ones? Why not pay young attractive and qualified FA's the money they need and deserve to attract and keep them?
You don't have to like my ideas, but I stand behind them 100%. If you had your choice of flying an airline I was running or any other U.S airline today, which would you choose.
I think the term "attractive" and beautiful are two different things. I don't think anyone here has mentioned that only beautiful model's should be F/As.
As to the morale, what is meant by that is the general feeling you get when being on the plane. I think even females would prefer pretty or attractive F/As.
I agree with all the above completely.
I think you answered you own question above, with the comment about looking and being professional! One does not have to be stunning to look professional! I think anyone can look professional.
Well, heck, let's just ship all dumpy looking people off to some remote island then...... And you want to keep the young and qualified flight attendants, but only for SO LONG..... once they're old then they're suddenly not so wanted anymore.
I actually agree with 90% of your ideas, but throwing people away just because they're old is wrong.
Most people buy their tickets with their pocketbooks. If they see a cheaper fare on Expedia, they will almost always buy the cheaper fare. There is a niche market for exclusive travel, and that's fine, but for the most part people want cheap over everything else.
Okay, how about it being said that only young "attractive" people should be F/As?
As to the morale, what is meant by that is the general feeling you get when being on the plane. I think even females would prefer pretty or attractive F/As.
Are you female? Cause this female would be far more happy with a flight attendant that was nice and kind than good-looking, and does not "prefer" pretty or attractive F/As.
Young attractive qualified F/A's (but not only) would IMO boost sales, and give flying a different image, rejuvenate it a bit. Since you are a lady, and there are ladies on this forum, how about we say, a young attractive Cabin Crew. (in reply to MQAAord)
The useless TSA is also to blame for why flying is becomming more of a pain then anything, as someone else posted earlier.
The useless TSA is also to blame for why flying is becomming more of a pain then anything, as someone else posted earlier.
I don't think anyone in this thread said that they would prefer eye candy who can't do their job over an average looking FA who can.
Just because they are attractive, does not mean they cannot be qualified, or don't know how to do their job. Everyone goes through the same training.
How would young attractive F/As boost sales? Do you really think people would travel more (buy more tickets) knowing there's young attractive F/As onboard? I think people are going to travel because they need to get from point A to point B, not because of the youth or attractiveness of the F/As.
So the same could be said for someone who may not be as attractive. Just because they're not as attractive, doesn't mean they can't be qualified either, or don't know how to do their job. Everyone goes through the same training.