The War Hoover makes history! President gets a trap!
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ready2fly
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[Toshiba] sold the Russkies some technology that we shared with them,...
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Man, do I remember THAT!!! I was interning for Congressman Sam Gibbons in the House of Representatives when that all went down. He was the chairman of the commitee (sad, I cannot remember the committee... I want to say it was a sub-committee on Trade.. but, I'm probably wrong.. been too long) that handled the matter.
Folks all over Amercia were taking Toshiba products and smashing them... and there was a lot of backlash against the Japanese.....
...however..... it was the Toshiba plant in Norway that sold the technology... not the Japs.
I had the distinct pleasure and honor of escorting the Ambassador of Norway over to the Capital building from the Rayburn Building for the meeting.
Let's just say that he exited the meeting with about half the ass he went in with.
Ahhh - good times. Good times.
[Toshiba] sold the Russkies some technology that we shared with them,...
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Man, do I remember THAT!!! I was interning for Congressman Sam Gibbons in the House of Representatives when that all went down. He was the chairman of the commitee (sad, I cannot remember the committee... I want to say it was a sub-committee on Trade.. but, I'm probably wrong.. been too long) that handled the matter.
Folks all over Amercia were taking Toshiba products and smashing them... and there was a lot of backlash against the Japanese.....
...however..... it was the Toshiba plant in Norway that sold the technology... not the Japs.
I had the distinct pleasure and honor of escorting the Ambassador of Norway over to the Capital building from the Rayburn Building for the meeting.
Let's just say that he exited the meeting with about half the ass he went in with.
Ahhh - good times. Good times.
shooter13
New Member
I just have to say as a nuke who deals with a lot of Sub guys(Toobers as we call 'em) A sub can get in on a carrier pretty much when they want to. I have so many periscope pictures I've seen at work to know it. The only thing saving my butt on that carrier is knowing that there are two friendly sub's somewhere in our battlegroup looking for the other subs. Sorry Chunk no offense but I put my faith in the subs, not the Hoovers.
As far as keeping 2 aircraft in the air, it all depends on where the ship is and what is going on in the world. There are a lot of times when it would take us 30 minutes to put a plane up. With an entire battle group's missiles around you, unless you are in a real dangerous place that is supposed to be enough. Besides, it will take more than a couple of missiles to sink a carrier. Torpedoes on the otherhand...those things scare me.
As far as keeping 2 aircraft in the air, it all depends on where the ship is and what is going on in the world. There are a lot of times when it would take us 30 minutes to put a plane up. With an entire battle group's missiles around you, unless you are in a real dangerous place that is supposed to be enough. Besides, it will take more than a couple of missiles to sink a carrier. Torpedoes on the otherhand...those things scare me.
chunk75
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Sub's most feared list:
1. Other sub
2. 2 dipping helo's
3. S-3
4. P-3
5. Surface ship (small boy)
It's easy to get up on a carrier if we aren't looking for ya...the carrier has no sonar of it's own, so unless we're actively screening there are few barriers against sub attack.
Dumb, I know. But ASW is expensive (sonobuoys that last between .5-4 hours cost 1500-32000 a pop and they are not recoverable).
1. Other sub
2. 2 dipping helo's
3. S-3
4. P-3
5. Surface ship (small boy)
It's easy to get up on a carrier if we aren't looking for ya...the carrier has no sonar of it's own, so unless we're actively screening there are few barriers against sub attack.
Dumb, I know. But ASW is expensive (sonobuoys that last between .5-4 hours cost 1500-32000 a pop and they are not recoverable).
