The SWA of the Regionals

Sisson2011

Well-Known Member
If the regionals were the way of life today, who would be the premiere airline that everyone would want to be working for? Or the worse?
 
ExpressJet

Maybe that were true 2 years ago, but not today. Expressjet has been thorougly beaten down.

That's the thing about regionals. Being the "premier" will always be short lived, because it just puts a giant target on your back for a beat-down. No scope = No hope. Just look at what's happening in the ACMI frieght world.

Comair....Then Air Wisconsin....Then Mesaba....Then Expressjet.....Then horizon....who's next for a beat down?
 
Maybe that were true 2 years ago, but not today. Expressjet has been thorougly beaten down.

That's the thing about regionals. Being the "premier" will always be short lived, because it just puts a giant target on your back for a beat-down. No scope = No hope. Just look at what's happening in the ACMI frieght world.

Comair....Then Air Wisconsin....Then Mesaba....Then Expressjet.....Then horizon....who's next for a beat down?

:yeahthat:

Believe it or not, with a new contract PINNACLE of all people could be the SWA of regionals....for about 3 years. Like Alchemy said, being the "SWA of the regionals" doesn't last long b/c you're normally not as cheap as the next guy. Mesa has stuck around forever b/c they're cheap while the above mentioned places have been beaten down to shadows of their former selves.
 
I thought Republic was supposed to be a pretty good place to work (outside of the religious zealots who run the company) ... the ERJ-175 looks like it would be a pretty sweet plane to fly.
 
Isn't this thread a little bit like debating which is the best venereal disease to catch?

I don't know, for decades both Air Wisconsin and Skywest offered relatively good pay for the equipment flown and solid and predictable domicile locations. I have to assume the same for Skywest (from the stories I hear) but there are pilots at Air Wisconsin that have been here 30+ years. They were home based in a small town in Wisconsin, making $70k-$120k/yr, flying their own brand. It wasn't until the regionals started getting into the fee-for-departure business, and after 9/11, that downward pressure has been exerted on QOL and pay.

We're seeing this on all fronts, not just the air travel industry. Service and quality being cut to compete at a price level of the competitor. I have to assume this not only has to do with outsourcing but also because of the financial squeeze on the average consumer.
 
If the regionals were the way of life today, who would be the premiere airline that everyone would want to be working for? Or the worse?

That's a pretty relative question; Where do you want to live? Do you mind commuting? How much do you need to make to survive? What kind of benefits do you need?

My point is that the "premiere" airline for one person my not be the choice of another person.

I think the better question is your second question. Which airline does everybody try to avoid and why?
 
how close do you have to be to the airport when on reserve? If you lived in the middle of NJ, could you be based in Newark, LGA, JFK or PHL and not have to move?
 
how close do you have to be to the airport when on reserve? If you lived in the middle of NJ, could you be based in Newark, LGA, JFK or PHL and not have to move?

Depends on the company, at mine we have 2 forms of reserve, a short and long call. Short call you need to be at the airport 2 hours from getting a call. So if you live 2 hours away you need to have your bag in your car and be showered and ready to walk out the door when they call. If you live 1 hour away you have 1 hour to get ready, etc. etc.

The long call reserve isn't set in stone every month and you need to be a relief line holder to get it if they put it on the relief lines. But it's got a 2 day call out.
 
Back
Top