The "Plight" of Great Lakes....

GlenA

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Anybody else read about how unfair the government is being to Great Lakes? hahahaha....some article! The truth is that people with the required times are realizing they have more options available to them.

http://www.eturbonews.com/39572/airline-safety-and-faa-extension-act-caused-disruption-air-servi

A shortage of pilots after on Aug. 1, US based had to comply with the new Airline Safety and FAA Extension Act, which lengthened the time for pilots and co-pilots to earn their ATP flight school certification.

The law raised the minimum requirement of flight hours for pilots from 250 to 1,500 hours of flight time before being hired by an airline.
This new law ultimately caused a shortage in pilots at every level and this effect is being felt at GLA and the airport, leaving customers unhappy with their services.

Great Lakes Airlines has canceled nearly two dozen flights out of Scottsbluff over the past few months, and Western Nebraska Regional Airport officials are looking for a solution.

WNRA Director Darwin Skelton said the airport is aware of the cancellations and is worried that the airport might not reach a target of 10,000 annual boarding numbers by the end of the year in order to receive federal funding for the airport. Failure to reach the threshold could cost the airport $850,000 in federal funding.

In October there were 22 canceled flights. The airport operated 120 flights with 796 passengers. There have been nine canceled flights in November as of Nov. 9. WNRA Chairman Don Overman said GLA works hard when there are issues to re-accommodate passengers on other airlines and flights at the airport.

Total boarding numbers this year with GLA through the end of October are 8,035 plus 176 on charter flights. Skelton said continued cancellations could leave the airport short of the boarding goal.

In October there were 22 canceled flights. The airport operated 120 flights with 796 passengers. There have been nine canceled flights in November as of Nov. 9. WNRA Chairman Don Overman said GLA works hard when there are issues to re-book passengers on other airlines and flights at the airport.

“The staff works very hard at Great Lakes,” Overman said. “They are customer friendly and they know the problem and they can’t control it, but they sure do the best for the customer that they can.”

Overman said he is very concerned about the GLA cancellations, but the shortage of pilots is due to the trickle down affect with pilots choosing to take jobs with larger airlines, causing the shortage. Overman added that even the military is having a hard time keeping pilots since they can make more money at major airlines as a captain. In October, GLA lost an estimated 12 pilots.

“We have been in contact with the top executives of Great Lakes and they well know our concern,” Overman said. “I think they’re are as frustrated or more so maybe than we are because they can’t do anything about it when a pilot quits.”

Skelton said he didn’t want to cause any concern for passengers who have booked future flights with GLA out of th airport, but it is an issue that officials want to resolve soon.

“I don’t want anybody worried that Great Lakes is going to pack up and go away because that’s not going to happen either,” Skelton said. “They’ve got some issues they’re working through and they’ve got to fix, we agree, but they will be here tomorrow.” Skelton said.

 
Of course. Its the governments fault that they chose to pay their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th year FOs such attractive, competitive wages. How long did they have to prepare? :rolleyes:
 
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The military example is journalistically weak on some many levels. Just noticed that one, what a sad attempt at an analogy.
 
Did this "journalist" finish 8th grade? My girlfriend only learned English 7 years ago and can write better than that.

Further, in typical media fashion, whoever "wrote" this article clearly doesn't understand the first thing about what caused GLA to get into the predicament that they're in.
 
Please forgive me for I'm naive.. But, does GLA actually make that much of a profit to pay their pilots anymore than what they do? I mean, subsidies can only do so much I suppose.
 
Please forgive me for I'm naive.. But, does GLA actually make that much of a profit to pay their pilots anymore than what they do? I mean, subsidies can only do so much I suppose.

If they don't, they can't afford to be in the business of safely transporting passengers around our NAS.
 
Please forgive me for I'm naive.. But, does GLA actually make that much of a profit to pay their pilots anymore than what they do? I mean, subsidies can only do so much I suppose.

That's pretty irrelevant, actually. If they don't, they simply need to increase fares. If people stop flying on them as a result, then clearly the communities they serve can't afford to support air travel. So be it.
 
Please forgive me for I'm naive.. But, does GLA actually make that much of a profit to pay their pilots anymore than what they do? I mean, subsidies can only do so much I suppose.

The truth of it is that GLA is in pretty rough shape financially. While certainly not an excuse for the way they treat their employees, it does prove that the business model of flying 19 seat turboprops, at least within the lower 48, even with government subsidies, just doesn't work anymore.
 
I thought I read something to the effect they were circumventing all this by operating under 135 and only flying half full?

Therefore allowing then to hire SICs with a wet commercial?
 
They were trying to. Their plan was to rope seats off, but FAA wanted them to remove them, thus won't grant them the certificate. Thats what I've gathered at least.
 
I think they're doing that for some routes, although I believe the FAA made them strip out 10 seats from those airplanes instead of just blocking them off.

If they do start running with only 9 seats, I can't imagine them doing well after those EAS contracts expire, since companies like Cape Air would be able to run many of those routes for far less money and with a lot less cancellations due to "lack of gullible pilots willing to work here".
 
I fly on GL to commute to work. My flight home this week got delayed because they are combining my flight with another. The ticket counter gal said it was because of the lack of pilots. Mesa or Skywest bids the EAS routes so if GL goes, Mesa/SKW might pick it up.
 
I fly on GL to commute to work. My flight home this week got delayed because they are combining my flight with another. The ticket counter gal said it was because of the lack of pilots. Mesa or Skywest bids the EAS routes so if GL goes, Mesa/SKW might pick it up.
That would be a free market win.

Higher wage earners, better service.
 
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