The last 747 rolled out of Everett tonight.

[derg]

No NO NO NONONONONOOOO… Wait, ok, that's a pretty chill story. Carry on.

 

[DropTank]

Religion man, its the devil.

 

[SteveC]

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[still one of my favorite shows...]

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

To what, the National Review?

Wasn’t whacking to it, but I was reading it back then.

Your ultra religious Christian dogma at the time must have been sooooooooo guilty afterwards. You dirty, dirty sinner!

Dude, you can’t even imagine.

 

[knot4u]

Dude, you can’t even imagine.

I find this odd and it raises questions. Were you a true believer that lost his faith over time or did you think it was all nonsense from the get go? I never cared for religion no matter how hard it was forced on me, in fact that's probably why I disliked it. I never felt guilty after beating off, pretending no one else was also doing it was silly.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I find this odd and it raises questions. Were you a true believer that lost his faith over time or did you think it was all nonsense from the get go? I never cared for religion no matter how hard it was forced on me, in fact that's probably why I disliked it. I never felt guilty after beating off, pretending no one else was also doing it was silly.

I was a hardcore Bible-thumping “born again” Christian for the first 25 or so years of my life, then another decade as a deist, before finally realizing it was all BS. Brainwashing is hard to break.

 

[knot4u]

I was a hardcore Bible-thumping “born again” Christian for the first 25 or so years of my life, then another decade as a deist, before finally realizing it was all BS. Brainwashing is hard to break.

Sounds like some Scientologists I've met. At least they don't own you for the next billion years.

 

[Minuteman]

First and last 74

Looking at the numbers for a 747-100 and a 747-8, it's interesting that the max payload remained unchanged, but the range at max payload more than doubled.

First
MTOW = 710,000 lb (322,100 kg)
Max Payload = 168,500 lb (76,280 kg)
Max Range = 2,600 nm

Last
MTOW = 987,000 lb (447,700 kg)
Max Payload = 167,700 (76,000 kg)
Range at Max Payload = 5,800 nm

 

[Stone Cold]

Looking at the numbers for a 747-100 and a 747-8, it's interesting that the max payload remained unchanged, but the range at max payload more than doubled.

First
MTOW = 710,000 lb (322,100 kg)
Max Payload = 168,500 lb (76,280 kg)
Max Range = 2,600 nm

Last
MTOW = 987,000 lb (447,700 kg)
Max Payload = 167,700 (76,000 kg)
Range at Max Payload = 5,800 nm

I know we’ve carried well over 200k lbs. I think the max payload numbers may be wrong on the -8. I have no experience with it, but the -400 can do much better than that.

Or maybe their max payload numbers are not what I think they are…

 

[DropTank]

Looking at the numbers for a 747-100 and a 747-8, it's interesting that the max payload remained unchanged, but the range at max payload more than doubled.

First
MTOW = 710,000 lb (322,100 kg)
Max Payload = 168,500 lb (76,280 kg)
Max Range = 2,600 nm

Last
MTOW = 987,000 lb (447,700 kg)
Max Payload = 167,700 (76,000 kg)
Range at Max Payload = 5,800 nm

747-8 290,000 lb
747 400F around 270,000
Not that you'll ever see that.

 

[///AMG]

I was a hardcore Bible-thumping “born again” Christian for the first 25 or so years of my life, then another decade as a deist, before finally realizing it was all BS. Brainwashing is hard to break.

How were you "born again" if it was the first 25 years of your life?

 

[mikecweb]

How were you "born again" if it was the first 25 years of your life?

Because he was an alien in his first life.

 

[///AMG]

Because he was an alien in his first life.

haha

The story presented is basically the opposite of born again. No shame in that. I was an acolyte (altar boy for you catholics) as a kid. To answer the original question posed to Todd rather than me, I'd say "never believed any of that Narnia". Sorry Mom.

 

[z987k]

Looking at the numbers for a 747-100 and a 747-8, it's interesting that the max payload remained unchanged, but the range at max payload more than doubled.

First
MTOW = 710,000 lb (322,100 kg)
Max Payload = 168,500 lb (76,280 kg)
Max Range = 2,600 nm

Last
MTOW = 987,000 lb (447,700 kg)
Max Payload = 167,700 (76,000 kg)
Range at Max Payload = 5,800 nm

Ya, a typical load is in the 220,000lbs range. 100 Metric Tons. And it can do more. I've can think of some loads that are 130 Metric tons.

Not sure where those numbers are coming from but 76000kg is a medium load.

 

[Minuteman]

Oh yah, 167,700 is for the 8i, Boeing lists 292,400 for the -8F. (I assume the "F" stands for "filthy")

Plan Manuals

www.boeing.com

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

How were you "born again" if it was the first 25 years of your life?

Not sure what you mean. Maybe you don’t understand the concept of being “saved” and “born again” under evangelical theology?

 

[DropTank]

Not sure what you mean. Maybe you don’t understand the concept of being “saved” and “born again” under evangelical theology?

It's not unusual for people to use "born again" interchangeably with "zealot"

Honestly, semantics really doesn't matter here. You grew mentally, and that's a good thing.

Now if only we can get you to have some compassion, you might be a respectable citizen.

 

[derg]

Because he was an alien in his first life.

Lizard people are REAL man, this isn't a joke!

 

[derg]

Not sure what you mean. Maybe you don’t understand the concept of being “saved” and “born again” under evangelical theology?

I'm the product of a Southern Baptist deacon dad and a card-carrying agnostic mother. I am completely ignorant about anything religious and I just defer to my non-practicing Lutheran on the other end of the sectional couch:

"What's that?"
"Why are they doing those things?"
"What the hell is a synod?"

 

[Minuteman]

Which is more deserving of being called “The Ocho,” the 747-8, the 787, of the godawful 737-8MAX8?