The Great Jumpseat War of 2019

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Denying United pilots just seems petty and stupid. Par for the course for SAPA and the joke that is IBT.
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Since you are incapable of making the logical dots connect yourself, allow me to spell it out a little more clearly: The choo-choo train runs off the tracks and goes to •-ville when an unambiguous management instruction comes out and says "you can't carry these pilots."

That management instruction is in the form of the FOM.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
What does yours say, that would deny a United pilot?
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Everyone who needs to knows what it says.

Denying United pilots just seems petty and stupid. Par for the course for SAPA and the joke that is IBT.
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I agree, but changing the document that allows cockpit access ties the pilots hands. And is also a pretty slimeball way of leveraging a dispute between labor groups.

Do you carry around a dog-eared copy of the FAR/AIM at work or something?
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Since you are incapable of making the logical dots connect yourself, allow me to spell it out a little more clearly: The choo-choo train runs off the tracks and goes to •-ville when an unambiguous management instruction comes out and says "you can't carry these pilots."

That management instruction is in the form of the FOM.
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So say we all.
 
jynxyjoe said:
So say we all.
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Me, 2019, colorized:
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@Derg
 
Richman said:
Any language like this that is hysterically^2* overspecific has some kind of story attached to it.

* The squared is because not only is it hysterically funny, but the event behind it was a hysteric overreaction.
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Could you imagine? “I’m going to have to write you up because you brought me an unopened can of coke”
 
Autothrust Blue said:
Since you are incapable of making the logical dots connect yourself, allow me to spell it out a little more clearly: The choo-choo train runs off the tracks and goes to •-ville when an unambiguous management instruction comes out and says "you can't carry these pilots."

That management instruction is in the form of the FOM.
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Except from what I just heard, there was no official change to the FOM yet. Any Sky or RAH pilot want to conform/deny?
 
Derg said:
Could you imagine? “I’m going to have to write you up because you brought me an unopened can of coke”
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The best part is when you break it down to some creature in "authority" (IE they aren't really in charge, they were just told to "carry this policy out no matter what"), the ride of wild rationalizations beings. After a few dipsy doodles I usually jump in and say "rather than continuing to dig this hole, why don't you simply say you were told to make people do this, so we can wrap up this conversation. I'm going for tacos, and they're not going to eat themselves, ya know."

To be fair, I haven't had to have this conversation in a long time.
 
JordanD said:
Everyone who needs to knows what it says.


I agree, but changing the document that allows cockpit access ties the pilots hands. And is also a pretty slimeball way of leveraging a dispute between labor groups.

Do you carry around a dog-eared copy of the FAR/AIM at work or something?
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Those “slimeballs” would be SAPA, your non-legally elected “reps” and your management.
 
If I was United and a few of my subcontractors started costing me money because I had to buy positive space tickets for my pilots due to a "jumpseat war" I'd start looking hard at the contracts and airframe distributions.

Edit to clarify: "buy" in this context means potentially displacing a paying customer and all the expense that goes with that, both direct and indirect
 
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