Talked to Colgan...

Thanks, how long are the reserve duty days? How about a normal line, how long is an average day? I know that is an open ended question, since the schedules vary a lot... but just looking for a ballpark idea.

I applied to a few of the regionals as well as some other flying jobs, but I haven't heard anything back. I figured if Colgan was hiring I might give it a shot.


Regular reserve shifts are 12 hours...usually 4-16 or 10-22 or (I think) 20-8. Airport reserve (ready reserve) is 8 hours....typically from 6-14 and 14-22.

Average days vary greatly. I'd guess they fall somewhere around the 8-12 hour range. Although they can be as low as 3-4 hrs and, unfortunately, as high as 14-16 hrs (but the really long days don't happen often and it's usually due to wx or mx issues).
 
For those that work there, what are the schedules like (reserve/normal)? If I do apply, I would probably try to live in base, so I don't have to commute. I'm just trying to figure out what the worst/best case scenarios are, concerning number of days flying per month etc.

I currently fly 17 days per month, most of those are full days (13 hrs duty/6.5 flight). I normally fly 12 legs as well, so maybe that is part of the burn out too. Is Colgan a little better than this from a scheduling standpoint?

Thanks in advance for those that can answer.

As a senior FO I held anywhere between 13-16 days off per month, and averaged 75-95 hours of flying per month. Most days aren't much more than 4-6 legs, max. Q flying I don't think I've ever seen more than 4 legs scheduled, the Saab does a bit more. If you get hired into one of the big hub bases, you'll likely be on reserve. 5 on, 2 off is the norm. If you live in base it's not that bad, if you're a commuter, it can be pretty rough. If you end up in a New England outstation on the Saab you'll probably hold a line immediately, and get a lot of flying. The downside is, those places can be tough to commute to if you don't already live nearby. Long duty days aren't at all uncommon (10+ hours).

It is what you make of it. I've been here for 3.5 years, and for the most part it's been a damn good job. Sure it has its days, but as Cruise (and the Beatles) said, it's getting better all the time.
 
Regular reserve shifts are 12 hours...usually 4-16 or 10-22 or (I think) 20-8. Airport reserve (ready reserve) is 8 hours....typically from 6-14 and 14-22.

Average days vary greatly. I'd guess they fall somewhere around the 8-12 hour range. Although they can be as low as 3-4 hrs and, unfortunately, as high as 14-16 hrs (but the really long days don't happen often and it's usually due to wx or mx issues).

Things must have dramatically improved in the 15 months since I left. :) 12 hours was an easy day when I was based out of HPN. Of course out of ROC I had a few months where the regular shift was 6-12, two round trips to Hartford. At that point we had a feeling the base was about to close though.

Colgan really isn't a horrible place to work, but it is a boilermaker. If you have any predisposition to hating an aspect of this job, from being away from home to long hours to getting the crap beaten out of you flying in bad wx and difficult terrain, you'll figure it out really quickly at Colgan.

Cruise can correct me on this one if things have changed, but the reason anyone should go to Colgan is because they want to move up the ladder quickly. I was hired at around 500tt and upgraded at around 1600tt. I went to Colgan because I wanted PIC time. I know all the arguments against chasing PIC, but I figured and still think that the only way to have a decent life in this career is to get to a major as quickly as possible. The best way to do that is to have the right amount of PIC time when the majors decide to open the books. I have friends at other carriers who go hired before I did, and 15 months after I quit Colgan they're still sitting right seat. I can only assume that they plan to make a career at their regional. If that's your plan, don't go for Colgan, if you want to take a shot at making it to the big show, go for Colgan.

Like others have said on here many people from Colgan have moved on to really decent gigs. My dad is a very senior pilot at SWA and had a chat with a few of the Captains who sit on the hiring board when he was down in Dallas a few years ago. They said that they would look very very favorably on Saab time or Q time and that time in any of those planes would be as good as RJ time. So don't worry about the turboprop aspect.

So if you want to move up quickly and be in a good position when the majors start hiring again, go to Colgan. The only thing I can suggest is not getting married and definitely not having kids while you're there. Though doing those two things put a lot of perspective on my life priorities. But if you still love to fly, Colgan will make your home life miserable. I never stayed in a base for longer than a year, and I never made enough money to justify my wife quitting her job and following me. That meant I was always commuting and sitting reserve sometimes meant that I wouldn't make it home for 10 days at a time when the schedule fell funny between months. At $45,000 a year I was essentially going to work to pay for daycare for a newborn that I never got to see. Leaving was the best decision I ever could have made. But, I still say Colgan is a great opprutunity for the right person.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I think I will shoot an app out. I'm currently at 2200TT, 820 multi, 340 turbine. One more question, if you have an ATP, do you still have to do the ATP written again as part of the entrance exam?
 
Thanks for the info guys. I think I will shoot an app out. I'm currently at 2200TT, 820 multi, 340 turbine. One more question, if you have an ATP, do you still have to do the ATP written again as part of the entrance exam?

I was told that if I had proof of a passed ATP written that I wouldn't have to take the test with them. I'm guessing and would kinda hope that having the cert will preclude you from having to take it; however I would still brush up on some of the stuff.
 
No matter if you hold an ATP or have completed the written you will still need to take the test. If you get less than an 80 you go home. Its that simple.
 
I'm probably going to be talking to them in the morning so if you guys have any serious questions, let me know.

I'm in the process of convincing them that they need to be at our event in Las Vegas.

Isn't that "other" airline gonna be there, too. Shouldn't be that hard to get them both there. I mean, they teach ground school in the same building and all.
 
It's alright man! :)

It's just the nature of the internet sometimes.
 
Thanks for the effort Doug!:clap: After thinking about it, I might even consider making a shot at Colgan in a few months...need a few more hours first.
 
Ok, had a good 40 minute conversation with Colgan today.

The barebones mins are 1000TT and 100ME.

In my interpretation, they like to see flight time commensurate with experience. 2500 TT with 40ME? Meh, not so much. 2000 TT with 500 ME? Better, BUT again, it depends on the overall picture of the candidate.

Lots of furloughed pilots applying, but that doesn't mean that lower-time pilots don't qualify.

It's the "whole package" and is not a numbers game -- vis a vis a 1200 pilot might get a job whereas a 5000 pilot may not for a variety of reasons.

Even though you have your ATP, you need to pass the ATP written. Having an ATP does not mean that you're more sought-after than another more 'well-rounded' candidate without an ATP.

Just took a delivery of a newer generation Q400 which is generating a need for more pilots, flight attendants and mechanics.
 
Man, I guess my 2200/33 and an ATP isn't really worth much.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. It's the "total applicant".

I tried to at less press her on numerics, but it just isn't a numbers game.
 
They (Colgan) brought their newest Q400 to MEM yesterday and had it on display for a few hours. I must say I thought it was a VERY nice airplane. Ive seen the Q around on trips but never got a up close tour of it. Nice roomy flight deck, decent room in the cabin (im 6'4 and can stand up in it, I cant even do that in the CRJ-900 )....Good space between the seats too, I was overall very impressed by it...;)
 
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