SWA Landing gear collapse at LGA

BobDDuck said:
I suppose if the trim ran nose down it could cause the nose to drop like that, but it would be kind of gradual and pretty easy to counter (at least at first). A rouge stick pusher could drop the nose like that. Some Boeing/MD aircraft (not sure if the 737 is one of them... I think it's only on aircraft that fly the elevator into place with a control tab) have a elevator boost accumulator that assists in deep stall recovery. I guess if that thing fired randomly it could push the nose down. If the plane was on autopilot and then taken off and it was severely out of trim (which shouldn't happen) it could have kicked the nose down. Finally I suppose the pilot could have just screwed up somehow and been diving for the runway and didn't rotate the nose back in time.

We'll find out sooner or later I'm sure.
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I'm all for looking at every reasonable cause, but the early thrust reduction, level-off well above the runway, and resulting high sink rate looks pretty straightforward.

Just looking for horses whenever I hear hoof beats, not zebras. ;)
 
Cptnchia said:
Every -800 I ever landed was always a few degress nose up on approach.
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True.

But the sight picture is different between the two, and the -800 is flatter...not to also mention the vref speeds
 
dasleben said:
I'm all for looking at every reasonable cause, but the early thrust reduction, level-off well above the runway, and resulting high sink rate looks pretty straightforward.

Just looking for horses whenever I hear hoof beats, not zebras. ;)
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-50DKP for using a Scrubs "line" to describe an aviation accident.

Have you no honor?
 
I routinely nose dive for the runway in our airplanes.... I like to keep the captain guessing until the end
 
Those videos are cray cray. It may be too early to tell, but many YouTube reporters point to the fact only half the amount of male genitalia normally found in a flight deck was present at the time of the landing.

Seriously though, wow. Glad everyone was unscathed and managed to evacuate themselves and their carry-ons.
 
ChasenSFO said:
Those videos are cray cray. It may be too early to tell, but many YouTube reporters point to the fact only half the amount of male genitalia normally found in a flight deck was present at the time of the landing.

Seriously though, wow. Glad everyone was unscathed and managed to evacuate themselves and their carry-ons.
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I wish there was fine for idiots who do this.
 
Pardon my ignorance- but does anybody know for certain if this airplane was surprised by a gear collapse or this was a planned, controlled event? The question was raised, if it in fact was a known gear fault, of why JFK wasn't used instead.
 
Firebird2XC said:
Pardon my ignorance- but does anybody know for certain if this airplane was surprised by a gear collapse or this was a planned, controlled event? The question was raised, if it in fact was a known gear fault, of why JFK wasn't used instead.
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Don't believe the plane has been interviewed yet.


If it was planned I don't think the FA would tell everyone they aren't at the gate yet.
 
Firebird2XC said:
Good point. All I've really heard about this so far was crew room armchair quarterbacking. It's interesting to see how such vehement opinions have been formed before the facts were known.
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Pilots...

Southwest is an easy punching bag too. Even more so now since no one is really going to get hired there anytime soon.
 
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