FO_SHIZZLE
Well-Known Member
Apples vs. Oranges
I think the whole airline job vs. job X out in the real world comparison is pretty much bunk. I doubt when you were in the oil industry were you "locked in" by a senority system. This is what I mean:
Say you've worked 10 years in the oil industry and you have built up some good experience and accomplished quite a few things. Along with that you're pay has increased as well. Say things turn south at your company and you start looking for work elsewhere; I'm sure that you are looking for pay and benefits in line with your experience and accomplishments right? Unfortunately in the airline industry it does not quite work that way.
If you were a CRJ Capt. for FlyI and making $80 an hour with years of experience in the aircraft, and you started at another regional, flying the same aircraft that you have so much experince with and accomplishments in guess what you get paid? $23/hr and sittin reserve.
So mgmt knows that they have you over the barrel because they know it is such a hard thing in this industry to lose that senority number. So you need that union, as a necessary evil, to counterbalance that and attempt to keep mgmt in check because this industry is very difficult to survive on your own.
I would love not to have to have a union, and I think ALPA is fat and really needs to get itself together. The only real solution would be to a systemwide regional senority list as well as one for the majors but thats a pipe dream as they say. It would be easier to get Whitney off the rock but it would solve alot of the problems I think.
I think the whole airline job vs. job X out in the real world comparison is pretty much bunk. I doubt when you were in the oil industry were you "locked in" by a senority system. This is what I mean:
Say you've worked 10 years in the oil industry and you have built up some good experience and accomplished quite a few things. Along with that you're pay has increased as well. Say things turn south at your company and you start looking for work elsewhere; I'm sure that you are looking for pay and benefits in line with your experience and accomplishments right? Unfortunately in the airline industry it does not quite work that way.
If you were a CRJ Capt. for FlyI and making $80 an hour with years of experience in the aircraft, and you started at another regional, flying the same aircraft that you have so much experince with and accomplishments in guess what you get paid? $23/hr and sittin reserve.
So mgmt knows that they have you over the barrel because they know it is such a hard thing in this industry to lose that senority number. So you need that union, as a necessary evil, to counterbalance that and attempt to keep mgmt in check because this industry is very difficult to survive on your own.
I would love not to have to have a union, and I think ALPA is fat and really needs to get itself together. The only real solution would be to a systemwide regional senority list as well as one for the majors but thats a pipe dream as they say. It would be easier to get Whitney off the rock but it would solve alot of the problems I think.
