SR-22 Crash...!!!

Well, I've heard of Navajo baggage doors blanketing the tail, any chance that the open door changed the "flyability" of the airplane? This is pretty damn gruesome.

Nope, the door is a gullwing door a kin to a Delorean and remains flush to the fuselage because of the slipstream. The doors popping open was a weekly occurance when I was flying the plastic parachute poppers and I never saw any adverse flight conditions. I once flew over an hour with the door open simply because it was at night and there was no better airport for me to land at than my destination. It was nothing more than a really annoying high pitched whistle.
 
How many of you CFIs teach take-offs with a door open? Do you think that may help out with tragedies like this? I know my instructor would occasionally sneak a door open for a "reasonable distraction".

I do. Often, even with it on the checklist, people would overlook closing the door in the summer, and I didn't have to do anything but wait.
 
Re: SR-22 Crash HOLY Sh...!!!

Wow. Looks like it dropped in there completely vertically.
No forward momentum whatsoever. The fuselage blew up right where it hit, not even hitting the two parking pole guards two meters in front. Looks like he stalled/spun it right in...

I have flown a SR22 once, and I think it is as safe a design on the market. I guess, I've known guys killed in a Cub to a sabreliner, to military a/c. Any airplane/aircraft can kill you if you get careless. Very sad
 
Does anyone else find the nature of some of the posts in this thread incredibly morbid? Just sayin. The video is literally of someone loosing their life.

I guess you're referring to my post.

I come from a culture in which, when there's an accident (especially one with some post-crash media that can be studied) the pilot group watches, analyzes, and discusses the incident in order to learn from it. That's not the first time I've seen a pilot die on video, and probably won't be the last. Most of the time, such videos are absolutely gut-wrenching to watch, and that feeling reinforces the lesson learned. I believe that the more gruesome the video/audio, the more solidly the lesson hits home.

Does it lead to the appearance of a clinical, insensitive discussion of the events and the outcome? Maybe, but it's always done with the understanding below the surface that it could be you in that video if you're not diligent. Besides, no words, soft or harsh, can bring that pilot back no matter what. It's not like this thread is that pilot's eulogy at his memorial. If I pack it in someday, I certainly hope my fellow pilots learn from the experience, and don't miss out on some learning point because they think they're being insensitive to what happened to me by talking about it explicitly, no holds barred. I seriously mean that.

Call it callous if you want. I call it keeping my own butt safer based on learning from the mistakes of others.
 
Does anyone else find the nature of some of the posts in this thread incredibly morbid? Just sayin. The video is literally of someone loosing their life.

Nope. It happens. We need to learn from this accident. An open door shouldn't become a fatality.
 
Well in our case, an open door would probably lead to some paperwork, if it were actually open...

Had the door come off on a Da-40 and managed not to mort it..

Reason why the Cirrus replaced the Bonanza as the Medicine Dispenser Killer.
 
It surprises me as an ARFF firefighter myself for that reason, as well as the fact that Phoenix can easily afford to have at least a ramp truck available.

Dang MikeD, is there anything that you don´t do?? You´re my new hero
 
Hell, the window can pop open on a 757 on takeoff. Not only can you rotate, climb, fly a pattern and make an uneventful landing with it wide open, you can also finish your coffee pretty much unscathed in the opposite seat.
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Not a 757, but same difference. Might catch you off guard, but hardly the worst thing that can happen to you in an airplane.
 
Feelings man... Tip Toe through the tulips..

Wonder how "tactfully" it would need to be approached had "Mr. Need To Close The Door" crashed into a school cafeteria and killed 15 - 8 year olds?

Learn from this. Fly the plane.
 
Feelings man... Tip Toe through the tulips..

Wonder how "tactfully" it would need to be approached had "Mr. Need To Close The Door" crashed into a school cafeteria and killed 15 - 8 year olds?

Learn from this. Fly the plane.

Even less tactfully. Maybe I'm cold, but I wouldn't care too much about a dead guy's feelings if he killed 15 kids due to poor airmanship and decision-making.

Anyway, "Learn from this" is exactly what I think Hacker is getting at. There's nothing wrong with saying someone's failure to accomplish X, Y, or Z led to his death. If it reminds you to complete X, Y, and Z on your next flight, great.

All the pilots I look up to share their mistakes with others so we can all learn from them, and if they were killed flying, I think they would be even more adamant about people knowing and learning from their mistakes.
 
Hmm,
I have been on a no flame policy for a while now. Yes I think we should all learn from our own mistakes and others (especially if the end in fireballs). Realize that comments should if not be compassionate, at least classy,this person was a fellow human being probably with fam and friends. If for no reason, than to not be a jerk. I am not really referring to everyone here. :)
 
What if I knew the guy? Imagine how unglued I'd come at some of the comments. Most would consider some of the comments disrespecting the dead.

I understand how you feel, but after my friend planted our aircraft on the bottom of the ocean, and killed himself and two others, I was very critical of his actions. In fact, I was downright angry. We have to hold ourselves to the highest standard imaginable. Saturday I participated in Young Eagles. One of my flights was with a woman's only child, and another woman's two children. The amount of trust and faith they placed in me to make all of the right choices and bring their kids back safely requires a level of stringency that far supercedes getting my feelings hurt, or hurting those of someone else. When the stakes are that high, I want someone to firmly plant their foot in my ass when I do anything that might compromise safety - hopefully before it happens.
 
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