On a related note, another problem with the accidents that have been occurring at KDVT is that there is no Crash/Fire/Rescue or Aircraft Rescue FireFighting vehicles at the airport. Surprising, simply due to the sheer volume of operations that go on there daily. But because it's all GA and there's no air carrier operations, no ARFF Index is required under 14 CFR 139. It surprises me as an ARFF firefighter myself for that reason, as well as the fact that Phoenix can easily afford to have at least a ramp truck available. Back in the day, there used to be a rescue truck, Rescue 19, based right next to the main terminal which had a limited firefighting capability. But that was gotten rid of in about 1989-1990. The nearest fire station is Station 36, located about a mile south of the airport in the industrial area on the south side of Deer Valley Road. Still, being off airport, their response time still takes a bit for anything on-field, or for anything on the north or west side of the field. That, and they're only equipped with a structural engine, a water tender, an ambulance and brush truck. Their nearest backup is Station 50 with about a 10 minute reponse time traffic allowing, bringing an extra structural engine and an extra ambulance. They also have a ladder, ladder tender and utility truck; none of which are really useful for ARFF. Even the structural engines aren't the best thing for ARFF, but are better than nothing, however the structural firefighters aren't ARFF trained formally....and that can be a bad thing, as we saw during the EMS helicopter crash in Tucson and the response to that last year. To this day, I don't know why Phoenix FD won't spend some money on an ARFF capability, instead of dropping money on new structural engines every few years. Phoenix-Goodyear (KGYR) is the same situation, with their no ARFF on field, and the nearest station being a structural station about a mile away and equipped with a structural engine, a ladder, and ladder tender which can all be used.