When this guy talks about spins, and unusual attitudes, I listen.
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When this guy talks about spins, and unusual attitudes, I listen.
ahw01
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I understand the mantra you can't spin if you aren't stalled, so we shouldn't teach ppls spins, but that's not practical, soon enough a student wouldn't recover from a stall properly, and you need to know what you're getting yourself in for.
During CFI initial, the instructor said You Europeans all think the same on spins, but I'd love to see a pilot never get into an unintentional stall-spin...
During CFI initial, the instructor said You Europeans all think the same on spins, but I'd love to see a pilot never get into an unintentional stall-spin...
MidlifeFlyer
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The FAA's decision to get rid of spins as a required task had more to do with what the FAA saw as an unacceptably high number of fatalities experienced during required spin training (in 1949 when, arguably, instructors were more proficient at it than today) than with what a student would know if he survived it. This is from the 1991 Final Rule that amended part 61 by re-introducing spin training as a requirement for CFIs.
The spin, a controlled or uncontrolled maneuver or performance in which the glider or airplane descends in a helical path while flying at an angle of attack greater than the angle of maximum lift, was a required training maneuver for pilot certification until 1949. It was deleted from the pilot certification requirements based on the high number of fatal stall and spin accidents, most of which occurred during training. The FAA has since placed greater emphasis on spin avoidance, particularly on training in the avoidance of unintentional stalls or unwanted unusual attitudes. This shift in training requirements resulted in a significant decrease in the number of stall/spin accidents since 1949. NTSB statistics indicate that stall/spin accidents fell from 48 percent of fatal general aviation accidents during the period 1945-48, to 22 percent during 1967-69, and to 12 or 13 percent in the 1970's.
That's a less significant issue with optional spin training since I think most of us who don't do it regularly or fly airplanes that cannot or should not be intentionally spun would pass a student on to an "expert."