Well, that's gonna be the case anytime you're talking about clueless noobs who are a greater threat to themselves and their teammates than to any adversary. I thought the flick made a number of rather salient (if subtle) points, including that one. And to be fair, the degree of retardation is only apparent to those on the inside; any truly accurate picture of the world of a fighter pilot would be a) intellectually inaccessible to any other audience, and b) probably classified.Definitely better than the two you described, but I still thought it had a degree of retardation to it.
I agree. I think they dumbed it down a little too much and at some points the story board wasn't logical. Plus they snuck in a lot of F-18 footage? However the actual indie IMAX quality film, what parts there are, is breath taking. Plus I love the F-5!Definitely better than the two you described, but I still thought it had a degree of retardation to it.
Come on now....18-22 was the average age.....It was far from a steel prison. Creative editing shows all the drama, otherwise it would be boring.....As for it being months on end.......Not really true. the longest time we were underway was 41 days. during the Gulf War though, at one point, the Ranger was under way for close to 120 days straight.Speed and Angels was pretty cool. Hacker, I am afraid I am missing what the levels of retardation may be, probably because I am just a laymen. Could you share a few instances if possible? Would be cool to hear it from someone that actually is in the fighter community.
Carrier - Wow. I feel sad for the poor souls on that ship, uh boat, whatever. I would rather serve a jail term than live in that hell.
I have been in Navy ports of call when the crew comes ashore. They decimated towns, yet I always felt sorry for them as well. 5000 18-22 yr old boys and girls who have miraculously managed to live in a steel prison suppressing natural human tendencies for months on end and now they get to leave it for a day and do whatever they want.....Oh dear.
On the most basic level, what they're showing during aerial sequences does not match what is actually happening in the scenarios that they're depicting. There's a lot of formation flying that looks a little like jets maneuvering against each other to the uneducated (a'la Top Gun), but is not real dogfighting (specifically the F-5 training footage where they're down flying around mountain peaks and doing aileron rolls through clouds). Looks pretty, but not real -- hell, they even make the point of describing a "5K hard deck"...then show jets rooting down at 500' through the mountains. The little CGI that shows the dogfight IS realistic-ish in terms of showing what the maneuvering looks like in three dimensions...but the footage of the jets isn't it.Speed and Angels was pretty cool. Hacker, I am afraid I am missing what the levels of retardation may be, probably because I am just a laymen. Could you share a few instances if possible? Would be cool to hear it from someone that actually is in the fighter community.
Unfortunately, no.Ahh I see. I actually just assumed that stuff was not accurate so I feel better now. Any reccomendations for more accurate footage in documentary format?
I suppose it's one of those things that can't ever be accurately conveyed on film.Ahh I see. I actually just assumed that stuff was not accurate so I feel better now. Any reccomendations for more accurate footage in documentary format?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5LM0e6YUmIOf all things, I think that "American Fighter Pilot" gave the best feel of what a real dogfight is actually like, despite the completely idiotic production of the show. The BFM scenes (even the ones in the trailers that I think are still available on the net) where you can hear the guys grunting and panting while under G...that's reality!