Space X did it!

poser765 said:
Several thoughts.

1. There are three things clearly in abundance at SpaceX: lots of kerbal experience, lots of passion, and copious amounts of good narcotics.

2. Freaking amazing.

3. Can SpaceX loan some engineers to Tesla? Clearly they can design things that go fast, so maybe they can help my car not drive like a paranoid grandmother on quaaludes?
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That might be a plausible "deflection" away from SpaceX having some really REALLY smart people. Maybe that's why the move from California to Texas is in the works? Maybe another "C" word to describe this success?
 
derg said:
I’ll raise my hand and say that I feel cheated about where the space program was headed and where it actually ended up.

Blade Runner 2019, in 1982, seemed completely believable as we advanced but reality is that we just run around with super powerful computers in our pockets looking at Toktok videos.
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Where’s my jet pack?
 
Pilot Fighter said:
Where’s my jet pack?
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Watch the sequence after the “The Dawn of Man” chapter of “2001: A Space Odyssey” and that’s what my generation thought was possible because we weee on track.

We had Concordes, Space Shuttles, CEOs that didn’t make hundreds, thousands of multiples of the average employee…. And the “Red Scare”, simmering racism and acquisition through redevelopment, but we loved science.

:)
 
derg said:
simmering racism
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Yep, I bet most of the folks on here don’t know anything about Wallace "Suitcase" Jefferson, "Loopie" Louie Hayes, and "Rocket" Randall.

Heck, most folks don’t know that Buzz Aldrin and Gordon Cooper were black.

Nevermind, tip your van driver and wear that shirt one more day.
 
poser765 said:
I’m not a smart man. What are you saying here?
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There are three things clearly in abundance at SpaceX: lots of kerbal experience, lots of passion, and copious amounts of good narcotics.
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Yes indeed. CLEARLY, you missed my response to your sarcasm <it was "sarcasm, right? If not, then I missed it. If that's the case, disregard my remark.>
 
schloopy said:
Eh. Watching the first successful Falcon landing was pretty incredible, and it was obvious at the time what a revolution it was. And we’ve now seen that it was in fact a world-changing achievement, at least when it comes to space exploration.

Watching this I dont really feel anything…I don’t see what this achieves other than impressing shareholders, if it’s even still impressive being this many years late. I certainly dont feel any more confident that this thing is ever going to Mars with people on it.
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Go look at the Artemis mission plan and how many times they want to conduct rendezvous for fueling in Earth Orbit.

To an earlier point made this is about the pace of launch to recover to launch that is gained not landing the rocket out somewhere and freight hauling it back in. It’s the same reason NASA eventually changed the shuttle flight plans to land outside of Edward’s and be closer to the facilities that would get it ready for the next launch. It wasn’t we didn’t know how to move the shuttle, it was every day wasted outside the facility translated to less launch cycles.

NASA released a statement saying they need to conduct ~15 in orbit refueling trips to be able to fuel the Artemis mission up for its movement to the moon. At Least 15 Starship Launches Needed to Execute Artemis III Lunar Landing

Now moving past how bonkers that sounds…. they can either build a ten digit or so number of rockets to meet that pace of launch cycle…. Or we can rapidly change method by using a concept SpaceX just proved can actually be done…. To go on record I didn’t think this stood a chance in hell of working. It’s probably still well away from low rate of failure, but it proves this 2nd option is possible and the mission plan is viable. This is like the space version of figuring out how to put gas in airplanes while they are flying…. Suddenly you can do so much more. Imagine the timeline for orbital assembly of something like the ISS that took the better part of my life to build. If you had the modules ready suddenly rapid assembly in orbit of a station is achievable.


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Prada helped design the latest Extravehicular Space Suit for the scheduled upcoming moon mission. Somehow simultaneously the government has run out of funds for disaster relief. Our government gave Boeing the same contract to transport astronauts to/from the ISS as SpaceX and paid them three times more money and they've not only gone over budget but they've also been derelict in achieving their stated goal, in the meantime SpaceX has been reliably shuttling people and goods up and down from the space station for years at this point. But NASA wants fashionable space suits, when I saw this on the news they were commenting about about the knee and elbows being some sort of darker color...

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derg said:
Watch the sequence after the “The Dawn of Man” chapter of “2001: A Space Odyssey” and that’s what my generation thought was possible because we weee on track.

We had Concordes, Space Shuttles, CEOs that didn’t make hundreds, thousands of multiples of the average employee…. And the “Red Scare”, simmering racism and acquisition through redevelopment, but we loved science.

:)
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And us younger guys, at least the fortunate few of us that aren't generations younger, also remember when those things you say were true. But then again, maybe we always just nostalgically pine away for our teens as a species. Which would be the 1990s in this case, which seemed to be the breaking point not only for capitalism, but also for politics in this country......though I might put the tombstone for American politics officially a decade later.......but the disease definitely infected us in the 1990s
 
Lawman said:
Go look at the Artemis mission plan and how many times they want to conduct rendezvous for fueling in Earth Orbit.

To an earlier point made this is about the pace of launch to recover to launch that is gained not landing the rocket out somewhere and freight hauling it back in. It’s the same reason NASA eventually changed the shuttle flight plans to land outside of Edward’s and be closer to the facilities that would get it ready for the next launch. It wasn’t we didn’t know how to move the shuttle, it was every day wasted outside the facility translated to less launch cycles.

NASA released a statement saying they need to conduct ~15 in orbit refueling trips to be able to fuel the Artemis mission up for its movement to the moon. At Least 15 Starship Launches Needed to Execute Artemis III Lunar Landing

Now moving past how bonkers that sounds…. they can either build a ten digit or so number of rockets to meet that pace of launch cycle…. Or we can rapidly change method by using a concept SpaceX just proved can actually be done…. To go on record I didn’t think this stood a chance in hell of working. It’s probably still well away from low rate of failure, but it proves this 2nd option is possible and the mission plan is viable. This is like the space version of figuring out how to put gas in airplanes while they are flying…. Suddenly you can do so much more. Imagine the timeline for orbital assembly of something like the ISS that took the better part of my life to build. If you had the modules ready suddenly rapid assembly in orbit of a station is achievable.


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Sometimes. . .on more than one occasion, creative intelligence is met with skepticism and cynicism.

They laughed at Wilbur and Orville too.
 
The local news seems to have a hard-on for the latest return of ISS astronauts. They keep saying these SpaceX astronauts unexpectedly went to a medical center immediately after splashdown. Couple of things, these were NASA and Russian astronauts and they'd just returned from spending 8 months on the space station and part of their science mission was examining how to counteract extended time spent in a zero-g environment. Where do these brave journalists think they'd go directly after their return? It's only unexpected because the folks in the newsroom are trying to generate drama and right now everyone is supposed to hate Musk because of reasons. @derg hates his Tesla for the same reasons and now McDonalds is a target. Bidens presidency will certainly go down in history.
 
knot4u said:
The local news seems to have a hard-on for the latest return of ISS astronauts. They keep saying these SpaceX astronauts unexpectedly went to a medical center immediately after splashdown. Couple of things, these were NASA and Russian astronauts and they'd just returned from spending 8 months on the space station and part of their science mission was examining how to counteract extended time spent in a zero-g environment. Where do these brave journalists think they'd go directly after their return? It's only unexpected because the folks in the newsroom are trying to generate drama and right now everyone is supposed to hate Musk because of reasons. @derg hates his Tesla for the same reasons and now McDonalds is a target. Bidens presidency will certainly go down in history.
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I can't wait to read in a history book about Trump serving fries and then campaigning about a golfer's schlong. Do you think your dad's was bigger?
 
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